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    Quote Originally Posted by Not_A_Llama View Post
    grandpa: Dump your distributor, and buy from Buds yourself.

    He might be. Then just jacking the prices up, then whine about how he can't compete, so we feel sorry for the "little" guy.

    Anybody know if "Grampa" gets more business from the hunter types or the military/C&R types?
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    What a dumbass. Dealers like this NEED to go out of business. If dealer price is $425 delivered, these kinds of guys will charge $575 + tax. They are the ones fucking up the gun industry. I'm sorry, but I run a company too and I know what overhead is. Grandpa needs to retire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mx'r View Post
    What a dumbass. Dealers like this NEED to go out of business. If dealer price is $425 delivered, these kinds of guys will charge $575 + tax. They are the ones fucking up the gun industry. I'm sorry, but I run a company too and I know what overhead is. Grandpa needs to retire.
    While I think what he did was unethical at the least, and while I'm "sure" Rod has never, ever shopped at Walmart or Kmart or any other discounter, I have a hard time believing you think a 35% gross margin is excessive if you run your own company. What do you think Apple's or Intel's gross margins are?

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    dealers can charge whatever they want obviously but i voice my opinion with my wallet on the other hand i would't have ever transfered with grandpas guns in the first place if they charge 35 bucks for a transfer. 25 is usually the norm that i find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackal View Post
    While I think what he did was unethical at the least, and while I'm "sure" Rod has never, ever shopped at Walmart or Kmart or any other discounter, I have a hard time believing you think a 35% gross margin is excessive if you run your own company. What do you think Apple's or Intel's gross margins are?

    In the construction world your lucky to see 10%. 35% is a fucking joke in any business. I'm finding work all over the place and paying bills, while lot's of others are drawing off of my taxes. Maybe running a buisness like a jackass has it's perks after all.... In this economy people are lucky to even have customers. Cheap transfers = people looking around in your shop for 1/2 hour or so. If you want to be OUT of business quick, try making 35% margin on all your sales. Nobody will be in your shop. Grandpa is a Jackass for his actions, arguing the point any further would make me a Jackass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mx'r View Post
    In the construction world your lucky to see 10%. 35% is a fucking joke in any business.
    I would love 10%! Granted, I'm just starting out, but I lose money all the time.

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    In that Grandpa response to The Ginsue, he said, "I've been here 112 years, sold 25000 guns, have a good business, plan on being here a long time without Buds, Who's going to do your transfers when there are no retailers????"

    112 years is one hell of a long time. It still sounds to me like collecting a fee of $35.00 is damn easy money for processing a FFL transfer. The firm doing the transfer has no money tied up in the firearm, and making that phone call for the background check sure can't cost much or really take that much phone time.
    Now, I know that when saying the following that I am like comparing "apples to oranges" but here we have at least ONE good thing for the gun show consumers that State of Colorado has established and that is that FFL dealers at gunshows may NOT charge more than ten bucks ($10) for handling a transfer at gun shows.
    Even though I too am a old Grandpa, I'm sure as hell not that type of Grandpa that would go back on my word, especially printed word.
    I will "bust my ass" to stick with my word when I give it, kinda like the old fashion handshake bond.

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    I Firmly believe he has the right to charge whatever he wants, as long as its the same price advertised and/or agreed on.
    If the Guy wants to charge $35.00, fine.
    Just say so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlin View Post
    He might be. Then just jacking the prices up, then whine about how he can't compete, so we feel sorry for the "little" guy.

    Anybody know if "Grampa" gets more business from the hunter types or the military/C&R types?

    Just profiling here but I am guessing by the name "Gun and Pawn" he makes a large amount of his revenue from bilking those down on there luck (Longmont and all) and then trying to charge retail for used property. As far as Firearms he is probably counting on Charging MSRP and not considering that this IS the 21st century with a full on internet wholesalers willing do volume sales at lower prices and make profits that way.





    Or maybe he just watches too much Pawnstars :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byte Stryke View Post
    Or maybe he just watches too much Pawnstars :P





    Be my guess also...
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