Suppressed AR

[Great-Kazoo]

My father owned a gun club when I was just a kid. I worked their every weekend. Virtually no one wore hearing protection. I never did.

I'm now old.

I have 90% loss in my left ear and 60% loss in my right.

I can't hear my girls when they talk to me.

It sucks

Wear hearing protectors.

I do now, yes even when shooting suppressed.

who said you can bring first hand knowledge of hearing loss in to this conversation

you'd be surprised how little noise depending on the person could cause temporary hearing loss.

[BigBear]

Musician and gun owner... I can't remember the last time I went ANYWHERE without a set of plugs in my pocket! HAHA.

Anything can damage your hearing, whether it's a one time event or a continuous noise. The cases of tendinitis (sp? ..ringing sound in ears) have been increasing in number over the years.

Hearing in my left ear was damaged by 30% by a car wreck!!... Be careful with your hearing!!

If I ever get out from under my mountain of debt, I'd love to get a can. That being said, I'm sure I'll still wear at least plugs when firing.

[Ranger]

Suppressor sales are booming, and with more and more Class 3 (SOT) dealers around

Who is a reputable class 3 SOT dealer in town (I'm Southwest Denver) that would be a good shop to deal with for this? I'm not really too concerned with cost, it's just been such a headache to get it done but I'm now motivated to do so!

Thanks!

[Zak Smith]

Alan's shop (Machinegun Tours) is in Denver.

Denver Bullet has also done transfers, but I don't think they are a retail dealer.

There are about to be a few more retail NFA dealers in northern Colorado.

[Busta Prima]

don't get your panties in a wad. no one disputed your all knowingness. of course 137 Db CAN hurt you, but you sound like my mother. fact is people shoot without hearing protection all the time while using suppressors. i never said i recommended it, i said it happens. hell, my grandpa never used hearing protection in WW2 for three years, nor did any of my friends in iraq or afghanistan (although they were supposed to) and all of them are fine. if you sit there and shoot 2000 rounds a year for 20 years without hearing protection even with a suppressor, yeah you are probably going to have hearing issues. shooting with a suppressor and no hearing protection for 50-100 rounds once in a while isn't going to destroy your hearing.

+1

Also, the meters are typically placed to the side but still in FRONT of the muzzle when they do these measurements. You shouldn't get anywhere near that many decibels from the shooter's position. If you need hearing protection when using your suppressor you wasted money on your suppressor!

[Zak Smith]

FYI, mil-spec sound level testing specifies the mic position is 1 meter to either side, even with the muzzle. Also, the dB level is increased by 6 dB every time the distance is cut if half.

On a bolt rifle with essentially a sealed breech, very little sound comes through the action. On an AR-15, the gas pressure is vented directly into the bolt (6-10" from the shooter's ear), and this impulse is not damped by the suppressor.

If we figure a 16" AR-15 has about 24" from the shooter's ear to the muzzle (16" plus approx 8"), that would be about 4 dB louder than it would be 1 meter away from the muzzle. 2*10*log (39/24)

[jimmym40a2]

I was amazed how loud it is when you move the meter to the right of the ear instead of left on an AR.

Here I was metering some cans the other day.

[Ranger]

I was amazed how loud it is when you move the meter to the right of the ear instead of left on an AR.

Here I was metering some cans the other day.

Sorry, I'm calling B.S. on this one. This is quite obviously your home defense turret system and the microphones are to record the screams of those you bear down upon.

Joking aside, that's quite an investment into research you have going on there!

[Great-Kazoo]

Alan's shop (Machinegun Tours) is in Denver.

Denver Bullet has also done transfers, but I don't think they are a retail dealer.

There are about to be a few more retail NFA dealers in northern Colorado.

I can't imagine where once i'm back on 2 legs, i'm going the build your own route.
American Ingenuity started in small shops and garages, that is where it will once again rise from the ashes. As it has been doing slowly but Shirley for a few years now, thanks to the 94 AWB.

[Seamonkey]

Who is a reputable class 3 SOT dealer in town (I'm Southwest Denver) that would be a good shop to deal with for this? I'm not really too concerned with cost, it's just been such a headache to get it done but I'm now motivated to do so!

Thanks!

5280 Armory - http://www.ak-47man.com/home.html

They carry YHM but didn't have the model I wanted in stock but have placed an order. Now we are just waiting on a production run so once they get some in I'll get mine. No transfer fee

If they don't carry that manufacture then it's $75 transfer fee

They are usually pretty busy so you may have to wait to talk to one of them but when you do they have great customer service (IMO)