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    Quote Originally Posted by Byte Stryke View Post
    pffft I am hoping they put on Bikinis and take it to the jello pool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    I hope this is all here tomorrow so I can read it and catch up.

    Anyway, does anyone else find it as intriguing as I do when our leo's argue with each other?
    I have met a few cops that I found out hated other cops I have known. I am telling you though, the apologizing was insane! Never would have thought I would have seen the day...
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    Now I am curious though Ken, I was just thinking about the drop leg thing and I was wondering what you would do if you saw someone walking around with an MP5K stuck to their leg?
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    Quote Originally Posted by spyder View Post
    Now I am curious though Ken, I was just thinking about the drop leg thing and I was wondering what you would do if you saw someone walking around with an MP5K stuck to their leg?
    Probably think "Wow, they appear ready for anything."

    I don't know to be honest, I might think, please don't let them rob a bank and please God please don't let this be a scene from the movie "Heat." Just kidding. I would definitely be curious and maybe do a consensual contact, and probably even strike up some gun conversation if I could, and make you late for whatever appointment you had since we would be deep in gun talk...

    Otherwise I have to say, not sure, depends on the circumstances, and how many soccer moms "felt threatened" ha ha, had to throw that in there.

    I have actually never shot one of those so I would most certainly be intrigued. I know a lot of people do things just for shock value too, and I would probably confess that as a fellow gun guy, who prefers concealed, why you do it that way...remembering this is all consensual at this point and more or less just trying to BS with you

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    Quote Originally Posted by spyder View Post
    I have met a few cops that I found out hated other cops I have known. I am telling you though, the apologizing was insane! Never would have thought I would have seen the day...

    Seriously, come on....cops aren't that bad when it comes to stuff like this and common courtesies. I have tons of great contacts during a shift with people, and with a certain amount of pride have to say that many people that get contacted numerous times (whether good or bad) have requested me to respond because I may have knowledge of the situation and they liked working with me or they felt they were treated fair by me, even people that I have arrested previously...again I say, I am floating my own boat here because I am very proud of that

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevDen2005 View Post
    Probably think "Wow, they appear ready for anything."

    I don't know to be honest, I might think, please don't let them rob a bank and please God please don't let this be a scene from the movie "Heat." Just kidding. I would definitely be curious and maybe do a consensual contact, and probably even strike up some gun conversation if I could, and make you late for whatever appointment you had since we would be deep in gun talk...

    Otherwise I have to say, not sure, depends on the circumstances, and how many soccer moms "felt threatened" ha ha, had to throw that in there.

    I have actually never shot one of those so I would most certainly be intrigued. I know a lot of people do things just for shock value too, and I would probably confess that as a fellow gun guy, who prefers concealed, why you do it that way...remembering this is all consensual at this point and more or less just trying to BS with you
    Huh, good answer. I have only done it once and it was purely unplanned.
    Quote Originally Posted by KevDen2005 View Post
    Seriously, come on....cops aren't that bad when it comes to stuff like this and common courtesies. I have tons of great contacts during a shift with people, and with a certain amount of pride have to say that many people that get contacted numerous times (whether good or bad) have requested me to respond because I may have knowledge of the situation and they liked working with me or they felt they were treated fair by me, even people that I have arrested previously...again I say, I am floating my own boat here because I am very proud of that
    I don't dislike cops, actually, I like more than I dislike. Keep being a good guy, maybe one of these days you will get a call on one of these other hard asses on here and change their minds about you guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spyder View Post
    Huh, good answer. I have only done it once and it was purely unplanned.

    I don't dislike cops, actually, I like more than I dislike. Keep being a good guy, maybe one of these days you will get a call on one of these other hard asses on here and change their minds about you guys.

    I have seen people open carry their rifles before and never thought anything about it and never got a call on it, drove right by. I think it also depends on where you work a little bit...if you work in Elizabeth and you don't see people carrying guns you may think, what is wrong. The opposite may be true in LA (if California had thought about protecting your rights and had better gun laws).

    But I do appreciate the comment, and I think most people on here like cops more than they will admit. I have see a lot of good comments about cops from some that I didn't think possible. But seriously, I do appreciate it.

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    idmaster - thank God for cops like you. It gives me hope for the future. As far as the debate with KevDen2005, that illustrates how cops are conditioned to think, “I'm a cop and what I say is the law.” However it is enlightening to hear your opinions KevDen2005. I hope you don't hide them from us. I don't otherwise have any insight how real cops think.

    I'm definitely for more open carry. It will re-condition everyone to get used to the fact that it's our right to own guns. And we're not a bunch of nuts.

    I was in a minor car ascendent recently. I do have a CCW and was carrying in my truck which has lots of pro gun and anti obama stickers. After getting my ticket handed to me the officer was very polite. He said, I wish we could have met in better circumstances. Yes sir, me to. Do you have a gun? Yes sir. As a courtesy please let the us know you have a gun.

    He told me the other guy also had a gun. The officer was very polite and young. But my CCW instructor recommended against telling cops you have a gun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    I don't think anyone in here was saying that you shouldn't have open carried. Will it make you feel better if I open carry for a day too?
    SO is open carry stupid like some have said. That would be like someone saying you should not open carry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldrwl View Post
    But my CCW instructor recommended against telling cops you have a gun.


    I too have heard conflicting issues on this and in the mean time I Simply hand my CHP over with my DL, thus avoiding the "I have a gun" Statement.

    So from the LEO perspective, is it better to not volunteer it and to simply answer truthfully if asked?

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