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    Quote Originally Posted by DSB OUTDOORS View Post
    I'll do it for free any day you want!! I worked in Collections for 5 years at my work and I love showing up on peoples door steps with a smile on my face just ruin there day!!
    Worked. Past tense. I had no emosion, no remorse. I did Not feel sorry for the people that owed me money. They got bent out of shape, not me! Simply said! No emotional attachment!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Guylee View Post
    An emotional investment in what you're doing is unprofessional. That's why one of the requirements of being a server is that you aren't directly affiliated with the situation.
    I'm going to say OMG I'm soooooo sorry for what happend, can I hold your hand?? Do you wan't to cry on my shoulder??

    Hello Mr's John Doe would you please sign here?? Have a nice day!! And then I walk away having that warm fuzzy feeling that I could help another CO AR-15 member that got SHIT on and had his heart ripped out of his chest by the one he Loved and Trusted all those years.

    And I would do the same for you!! Have a good evening!!

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    I am free thursday through the following tuesday if you still need it done by then.

    I would get it done asap though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSB OUTDOORS View Post
    Worked. Past tense. I had no emosion, no remorse. I did Not feel sorry for the people that owed me money. They got bent out of shape, not me! Simply said! No emotional attachment!!

    ...And I would do the same for you!!

    First of all, they probably did not owe YOU money. A collector is sorta like a telemarketer with an attitude problem. They tend to develop inflated egos and substance abuse problems. It seems to go with the job.

    That sort of attitude that works for telephone collections will get you shot if you try applying it to service of process. You are just there to let the people -- and they ARE people -- know that they are being sued, divorced, garnished, whatever, and they have an opportunity to contest it in court should they so wish. That is all you need to do. When you start making it personal by mocking them or demanding that they pay you have crossed a line and you are on your own. Law is on the defendant's side and he can sue your client for big bucks and win. That is why most of the big law firms insist that their servers are bonded and insured.

    I've done that work before, and let me tell you that in many cases the defendant doesn't even owe that money. I have seen cases that were past the statute of limitations, I have seen cases of double billing, I have seen cases where the bill was paid in full, I have seen cases of identity theft, and I have seen outright fraud on the part of clients. Then there are the PEOPLE who may well owe money, but they've already set up a payment plan or have had the debt settled in bankruptcy or being handled by an attorney. Or you get the folks who have lost a job, been through a messy divorce, or are dying from cancer. Then you get the ones who CAN'T pay. I have been asked to serve people dying in hospice or nursing homes (I did not), I have been sent to serve mentally incompetent people (I did not), I have been asked to serve homeless junkies with AIDs. Do you think paying some past due bills is anywhere near the top of their priorities?

    These are PEOPLE who are having a lot of problems in their life, and the last thing they need is some bottom-feeding scavenger banging on their door and yelling at them, or smirking and calling them names. For some reason Colorado does not require licensing or even a background check for process servers or private investigators, and from what I have seen and heard half the people doing those jobs would probably get fired from McDonald's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint45 View Post
    First of all, they probably did not owe YOU money. A collector is sorta like a telemarketer with an attitude problem. They tend to develop inflated egos and substance abuse problems. It seems to go with the job.

    That sort of attitude that works for telephone collections will get you shot if you try applying it to service of process. You are just there to let the people -- and they ARE people -- know that they are being sued, divorced, garnished, whatever, and they have an opportunity to contest it in court should they so wish. That is all you need to do. When you start making it personal by mocking them or demanding that they pay you have crossed a line and you are on your own. Law is on the defendant's side and he can sue your client for big bucks and win. That is why most of the big law firms insist that their servers are bonded and insured.

    I've done that work before, and let me tell you that in many cases the defendant doesn't even owe that money. I have seen cases that were past the statute of limitations, I have seen cases of double billing, I have seen cases where the bill was paid in full, I have seen cases of identity theft, and I have seen outright fraud on the part of clients. Then there are the PEOPLE who may well owe money, but they've already set up a payment plan or have had the debt settled in bankruptcy or being handled by an attorney. Or you get the folks who have lost a job, been through a messy divorce, or are dying from cancer. Then you get the ones who CAN'T pay. I have been asked to serve people dying in hospice or nursing homes (I did not), I have been sent to serve mentally incompetent people (I did not), I have been asked to serve homeless junkies with AIDs. Do you think paying some past due bills is anywhere near the top of their priorities?

    These are PEOPLE who are having a lot of problems in their life, and the last thing they need is some bottom-feeding scavenger banging on their door and yelling at them, or smirking and calling them names. For some reason Colorado does not require licensing or even a background check for process servers or private investigators, and from what I have seen and heard half the people doing those jobs would probably get fired from McDonald's.
    +1 well said

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint45 View Post
    First of all, they probably did not owe YOU money. A collector is sorta like a telemarketer with an attitude problem. They tend to develop inflated egos and substance abuse problems. It seems to go with the job.

    That sort of attitude that works for telephone collections will get you shot if you try applying it to service of process. You are just there to let the people -- and they ARE people -- know that they are being sued, divorced, garnished, whatever, and they have an opportunity to contest it in court should they so wish. That is all you need to do. When you start making it personal by mocking them or demanding that they pay you have crossed a line and you are on your own. Law is on the defendant's side and he can sue your client for big bucks and win. That is why most of the big law firms insist that their servers are bonded and insured.

    I've done that work before, and let me tell you that in many cases the defendant doesn't even owe that money. I have seen cases that were past the statute of limitations, I have seen cases of double billing, I have seen cases where the bill was paid in full, I have seen cases of identity theft, and I have seen outright fraud on the part of clients. Then there are the PEOPLE who may well owe money, but they've already set up a payment plan or have had the debt settled in bankruptcy or being handled by an attorney. Or you get the folks who have lost a job, been through a messy divorce, or are dying from cancer. Then you get the ones who CAN'T pay. I have been asked to serve people dying in hospice or nursing homes (I did not), I have been sent to serve mentally incompetent people (I did not), I have been asked to serve homeless junkies with AIDs. Do you think paying some past due bills is anywhere near the top of their priorities?

    These are PEOPLE who are having a lot of problems in their life, and the last thing they need is some bottom-feeding scavenger banging on their door and yelling at them, or smirking and calling them names. For some reason Colorado does not require licensing or even a background check for process servers or private investigators, and from what I have seen and heard half the people doing those jobs would probably get fired from McDonald's.
    Exactly. Even if they are terrible people that deserve it, it's not your place to make that judgement.
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    Clint45 has a few good points, but what you're happy about inside is just fine, as long as you don't let it show.

    The only person who can serve and not get a return of service notarized is a deputy sheriff from THAT county.

    Notary is no big deal, tons of folks have them.

    MANNER of service is quite important, some things need to be handed over, some things can be left with your boss, etc... You have to know what the paperwork entails to know how to serve it.

    You also have to be available IN CASE the person who was served says that they weren't served. Happens ALL the time. What ends up happening, since the court cant do the service, is the lawyer for the plaintiff quite literally runs out into the hall and attempts to find some disinterested adult who will do the service. Seen it happen! The court will only serve IT"S OWN paperwork in the court, attorney paperwork is up to them.

    It aint hard as long as you know where the person lives or works, and doing it discretely preserves so much of a person's dignity (including your own) because all it means is that a person has to answer some court process, it doesn't mean guilt or innocence - or represent victimhood to any degree.

    Any person over 18 years of age who is NOT party to, or related by blood or marriage to any of the two party's can serve the paperwork. The paperwork typically has a form attached to it called:

    Return of Service.

    Record the date time and address where you served someone, fill in the blanks on the ROS and go to a notary, show them your DL or ID and sign in their presence. Give the ROS to you, or your attorney, and you're done.

    Unless you have your service called into question, expect to be subpoena'd if the person jinks. But TYPICALLY the person hires a lawyer and they contact the plaintiff, and they go to court.

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    id be willin to help
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint45 View Post
    First of all, they probably did not owe YOU money. WRONG!!

    I've done that work before, and let me tell you that in many cases the defendant doesn't even owe that money. I have seen cases that were past the statute of limitations, I have seen cases of double billing, I have seen cases where the bill was paid in full, I have seen cases of identity theft, and I have seen outright fraud on the part of clients. Then there are the PEOPLE who may well owe money, but they've already set up a payment plan or have had the debt settled in bankruptcy or being handled by an attorney. Or you get the folks who have lost a job, been through a messy divorce, or are dying from cancer. Then you get the ones who CAN'T pay. I have been asked to serve people dying in hospice or nursing homes (I did not), I have been sent to serve mentally incompetent people (I did not), I have been asked to serve homeless junkies with AIDs. Do you think paying some past due bills is anywhere near the top of their priorities?

    These are PEOPLE who are having a lot of problems in their life, and the last thing they need is some bottom-feeding scavenger banging on their door and yelling at them, or smirking and calling them names. For some reason Colorado does not require licensing or even a background check for process servers or private investigators, and from what I have seen and heard half the people doing those jobs would probably get fired from McDonald's.
    You have some very good points! Don't get me wrong. But when you own your own business like I do!! You know who owes you money, you see whos 30 - 90 days late, you know whos bouncing checks, I hear the same old stories day after day, I know who hes paying in the industry because of credit meatings, and talking to other creditors. I work with people until I can't put up with the lies any more. I watch my bank account very closely and I know when to turn some screws and who to turn them on.

    Hell on of my customers that owed me $240,000.00 filed bankruptcy showed up in bankruptcy court in an Armani Suit and had on his $2,000 Rolex watch on and I'm supossed to feel sorry for him?? I Don't Think So!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSB OUTDOORS View Post
    You have some very good points! Don't get me wrong. But when you own your own business like I do!! You know who owes you money, you see whos 30 - 90 days late, you know whos bouncing checks, I hear the same old stories day after day, I know who hes paying in the industry because of credit meatings, and talking to other creditors. I work with people until I can't put up with the lies any more. I watch my bank account very closely and I know when to turn some screws and who to turn them on.
    Okay. But if this is a debt that is owed to you or your company you are prohibited by law from going to that person's house and serving them legal papers yourself, as you are a party to that action. The reason that is illegal/invalid is because many plantiffs would just say that they served papers which they did not, resulting in a default judgement. Yes, that is felony perjury, but it is difficult to prove. If it is alleged the court typically just reverses the judgement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint45 View Post
    Okay. But if this is a debt that is owed to you or your company you are prohibited by law from going to that person's house and serving them legal papers yourself, as you are a party to that action. The reason that is illegal/invalid is because many plantiffs would just say that they served papers which they did not, resulting in a default judgement. Yes, that is felony perjury, but it is difficult to prove. If it is alleged the court typically just reverses the judgement.
    Sorry Clint. I see whats happening now. some Mx'r is wanting to Serve Papers to his Wife who is filing for divorce and I offered to do that. Thats all I was getting at. I don't serve papers to my customers unless it's a statement.

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