Posting a discussion topic to stop a thread hijack.

[CMP_5.56]

Jake, you covered what see as responsibilities. And I see some peoples point of view, but I would never leave a country I was born in to live elsewhere unless I loved that country more than my homeland. And I see things different than most. If I was going to be a citizen in another country I would learn the language and laws and do whatever it took to gain my citizenship.

[mcantar18c]

Jake, you covered what see as responsibilities. And I see some peoples point of view, but I would never leave a country I was born in to live elsewhere unless I loved that country more than my homeland. And I see things different than most. If I was going to be a citizen in another country I would learn the language and laws and do whatever it took to gain my citizenship.

I agree with you 100% CMP, I see absolutely no reason to move to another country permanently and then not want to become a citizen.
However, I don't see what responsibilities one would dodge by becoming a PR instead. In fact, it seems like it would give you all the responsibilities without some of the benefits.
My dad is from Toronto, has been living here for almost 40 years now with no intention to ever move back but is still a Canadian citizen. I've never asked as he and I don't talk about much in the first place, but I've wondered many times why he hasn't applied for citizenship. He pays all the taxes that you and I do, contributes just as much to our country as any working, tax paying citizen does, however he can't vote in elections, serve on a jury, etc. While I don't see any reason for him to keep himself in that position, I don't think he's avoiding any responsibilities by doing so.
As a natural born citizen of the US, I see voting and jury duty as a responsibility. But for somebody that immigrated here, I think its more of a privilege than a responsibility or a right.

[CMP_5.56]

I agree with you 100% CMP, I see absolutely no reason to move to another country permanently and then not want to become a citizen.
However, I don't see what responsibilities one would dodge by becoming a PR instead. In fact, it seems like it would give you all the responsibilities without some of the benefits.
My dad is from Toronto, has been living here for almost 40 years now with no intention to ever move back but is still a Canadian citizen. I've never asked as he and I don't talk about much in the first place, but I've wondered many times why he hasn't applied for citizenship. He pays all the taxes that you and I do, contributes just as much to our country as any working, tax paying citizen does, however he can't vote in elections, serve on a jury, etc. While I don't see any reason for him to keep himself in that position, I don't think he's avoiding any responsibilities by doing so.
As a natural born citizen of the US, I see voting and jury duty as a responsibility. But for somebody that immigrated here, I think its more of a privilege than a responsibility or a right.

I too see voting and jury duty as responsibilities, as well as signing up for selected service. Those are three big ones I see. And I hate it just as much as people that were born citizens not voting as well. Especially since they be the ones that seem to bitch about it the most.

[Irving]

Jake, you covered what see as responsibilities. And I see some peoples point of view, but I would never leave a country I was born in to live elsewhere unless I loved that country more than my homeland. And I see things different than most. If I was going to be a citizen in another country I would learn the language and laws and do whatever it took to gain my citizenship.

What if you left your birth country when you were 3 years old and the United States was all you've ever known? Are you saying you'd need a piece of paper to reassure you that you love the only place you've ever known as home?