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    Constitutional Rights are like virginity; they are intact or not. I don't believe either can be slightly violated. Of course there are courts and doctors who make those types of determinations upon further examination
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    Quote Originally Posted by cstone View Post
    Constitutional Rights are like virginity; they are intact or not. I don't believe either can be slightly violated. Of course there are courts and doctors who make those types of determinations upon further examination
    True... okay rephrase- Some policeman infringing on his rights.
    I had a retired cop tell me something along similar lines: "Police officer is a lot like gynecologist, the job sounds awesome, but then you get it and you really aren't getting the hot action you originally thought."
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    A guy with a cause, his cause is to post a YouTube video about how much of a gun advocate he is. While his points are valid, this was all an unnecessary encounter. It's time to get defensive if and when the LEO might push the issue beyond a reasonable measure and asking for ID isn't it.
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    You are not required to carry or provide papers or ID in The United Sates of America.

    You are required to carry a valid license when you operate a motor vehicle. And unless an LEO thinks a crime has been committed, they have no right to detain anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hip55 View Post
    You are not required to carry or provide papers or ID in The United Sates of America.

    You are required to carry a valid license when you operate a motor vehicle. And unless an LEO thinks a crime has been committed, they have no right to detain anyone.
    Correction, unless you live in AZ
    That's true... although I never leave home without my license (or everything else in my wallet for that matter), I still am relatively comfortable that if I don't have any form of ID it's not that big of deal unless I'm drinking, or driving (but never both at the same time)... but I do fear that Gestapo tactics are not far around the corner one day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hip55 View Post
    You are not required to carry or provide papers or ID in The United Sates of America.

    You are required to carry a valid license when you operate a motor vehicle. And unless an LEO thinks a crime has been committed, they have no right to detain anyone.

    Good!

    I think he was bating the cops and is not helping out gun owners at all. Open carry is the least preferred method of carry but if it is all you got so be it. If your gonna do at least carry in a proper holster and for f sake just tell the cop your name. What harm is that.

    I did notice the cop say she was a peace officer. I wonder if she really is or if she knows the difference between a peace officer and a LEO

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    Agreed that they are within their rights to open carry and are not breaking the law. That being said in my opinion they are giving gun owners a bad name. Walking around in public displaying a weapon is going to attract the attention of your fellow citizens and law enforcement, everybody knows that. To that end it is for good reason that you are going to be confronted. If you saw somebody walking around your neighborhood with a gun you would probably also say to yourself 'what the f*ck is that guy doing?' Would you then just stand by while a stranger with a displayed weapon was approaching your wife and children without knowing his intention? I would say any responsible gun owner would not display their weapon as a tool to instigate a confrontation with the police. I understand that it is a slippery slope with government infringing upon our rights and that you have to draw the line at some point. I just think that in this instance the line isn't being drawn in the right location. And I say all of this being pro gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mackbamf View Post
    And I say all of this being pro gun.
    Apparently not.


    To answer your question, I say "What the fuck is that person doing?" when I see anybody in my neighborhood, and I go on alert when anybody approaches my wife and daughter. Also, I wouldn't be all that concerned if the gun is in a holster.
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    Why the hell are they carrying guns at the beach anyway... Dumb Asses...... that is why we have it so hard with gun carry laws. It may be their right, but dam, not smart at all in this situation. At least that is just my 2-cents.... I personally would not want anyone to know I am carrying a firearm until I need them to know. Now I guess if there is a bag guy on the beach, the two idiots they see with guns will be shot first....... my 2-cents only.

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    I completely agree... we should hide in the shadows. Don't stand up for your constitutional rights, it will only cause problems.
    The less people see people standing up for themselves, the less likely others will.


    I give a fuck if they were at a nude beach wearing ONLY their sidearms...
    IT IS THEIR RIGHT

    You have less of a right to drive your car than they do to carry.

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