Anyone Krav Maga or Systema training?

[patrick0685]

ill have to agree with monky...while i was taking the class there was no neck breaking or killing, it was more about identifying the threat, stopping the threat, then escaping

[gnihcraes]

Interesting words about Stephen Oliver and Mile High Karate. I'm High brown belt in their venue. Not currently practicing.

Look into something like Aikido. More friendly to your body. I'm pretty beat up with the Taekwondo after several years.

A friend got into Kung Fu because Taekwondo was pretty harsh.

[Guylee]

Just had to get a shot in on you Pat.. Was only playin about the cheekun part.



Yeah you're pretty much talking out of your ass.. I have yet to learn any way to 'kill' or 'break a neck'... although just as in anything you learn it's what you apply to it.

I don't train with a firearm with the intent of killing anyone.. I train with the intent of preserving my own life or those around me if need be...

That being said if I have 0 control.. I'm very sure I could maim/seriously injure/kill someone.. but I can do that w/o any training in anything with proper motivation...

As far as it not being practical and a 'combat' self defense.. I welcome you to come try a class out..

I stand corrected. My apologies.

[Irving]

I stand corrected. My apologies.

You're lucky he didn't break your neck!

[Guylee]

You're lucky he didn't break your neck!

It's all he knows how to do!















I jest of course

[MrPrena]

I was never directly involved in Krav Maga, but I watched a lot of people who did it and the impression that I got was that it's not very practical for the average American citizen...KM was developed for combat by the isrealis, and as such there's no "middle ground" so to speak when it comes to your levels of engagement. It seems to me that once you choose to engage, you either kill or seriously maim your target, which can become a legal problem here (uncle joe gets a little tipsy and starts trying to beat up your buddy, I don't think we need to break his neck). From a defensive standpoint it's a fantastic martial art, but not really applicable in our daily lives. After 11 years in TKD I chose to switch to Combat Hapkido. There isn't very much as far as fitness goes, but it is strictly defensive, and a beautiful martial art for escaltion of force...nearly every technique can be used to either subdue, incapacitate, or neutralize an aggressor. I would highly recommend it if you can find somewhere that's teaching it.

Like I said before though, my conclusions on KM were drawn just from what I saw, so I could be talking out my ass.

Interesting words about Stephen Oliver and Mile High Karate. I'm High brown belt in their venue. Not currently practicing.

Look into something like Aikido. More friendly to your body. I'm pretty beat up with the Taekwondo after several years.

A friend got into Kung Fu because Taekwondo was pretty harsh.

I took TKD in Republic of Korea (South Korea). I think it was more harsh there than here from experiences and visually looking at others taking TKD here.
Yes, master there beat you up LOL... (at least during 80s).

I somewhat agree w/ statement above regarding Krav Maga. More excessive movements relative to some other martial arts out there. Little less efficient than Aikido/Hapkido, but some are choreographed.


I think diffilcult martial art I've ever taken was Kendo.

[sneakerd]

I found Aikido to be very hard on my body, especially my wrists. Also, the bigger and older you are, the harder on you it is, so I personally would not recommend that. However, if one were to choose that way, you should only go to Aikido Nippon-Kan, and train under Gaku Homma. They have an introductory course that will serve you well in your decision whether or not to continue there, without any long-term commitment. Thay are located at 14th and Osage. He's also one hell of a Japanese Country Chef!