The Third Reich

[jake]

[Ronin13]

Huh? There's next to nothing on there outside of Pawn Stars and Ice Road Truckers.

Among the other "non-historical" stuff they put. Modern Marvels has some history to it, but Pawn Stars? Really? Dense people really care too much about what crap people hawk at pawn shops.

Back to the topic at hand, I agree, people now (especially in '08 when this whole mess got out of control) are so easily seduced by "change." Well people were easily seduced by Adolf Hitler's call for "change" as well, and his promises to bring the German empire back to a position of strength. He may have slaughtered a lot of Jews in the process, and funny fact, some people didn't know that the Jews were being murdered, they thought their neighbors were being segregated and sent to "work" camps. Today, the mind of the collective idiots of America is being warped so badly that many can't see the truth in front of their eyes... some still support BO, even if he has not done much of anything he promised and the economy is nearing the point of no return. What does he intend to do when our debtors come collecting? Will we crumble like the Soviet Union and our Generals start selling off guns, tanks, helicopters, etc.? Or will we be able to turn this thing around and someday not have to worry about our grandchildren being forced into poverty because they have to pick up the tab that our leaders couldn't pay?

[Mtn.man]

Yeah that.
Can we recover?
Hitler took from the rich to help SPREAD the wealth. The people fell for it and it ended up impoverishing the people.

[sneakerd]

I remember reading or hearing somewhere- Decline of the Roman Empire?
Something about the idea that a powerful society begins its' decline as soon as the people learn that they can vote themselves money and/or benefits. That's where we are. To me it has nothing to do with Hitler or Stalin or Hirohito or Mussolini. The Dems entire voting block is rooted in the fact that they are promised more money, more stuff and more benefits if they will vote/elect a Democrat.

[MED]

Hitler rose to power based on a country that was reduced to rubble by the punitive damages and reparations payments in the Versailles Treaty. The economic hardship in Germany was really ridiculous resulting in a strong taste of bitterness and betrayal among the people and solidifying in Hitler. If the US stayed out of WWI as it should have done, Hitler’s Third Reich would have likely not happened as WWI would have ended in a stalemate. I don't blame the German people for wanting something better; the Versailles Treaty was complete BS. I guess if conditions are bad enough, you will believe anything.


Obama is a different kind of stupidity. Just critically reading the guy’s books, one would realize that he doesn’t like this country or the people who found it. Where Hitler was hyper nationalistic and aggrieved by how WWI Ended; Obama has absolutely no love whatsoever for this country. He will maneuver around and mock the system since he doesn’t believe in it. Obama wants to change the country to its very foundation; he was the wrong person for the job, period! As much as I hate Hillary, she was by far the better Democrat for the job. We live in a day of social engineering and social experimentation. Unfortunately, Obama is a social experiment gone wrong. The real sad part is that so much of the population doesn’t believe in rules or boundaries (such as the constitution); too many people in this country are willing to open the doors to experimentation. Personally, I believe those who founded this country that only through limits will my way of life be preserved.


At best, Obama is another Jimmy Carter; at worst he is an anti-American leader who took over the executive branch of our government. The thought of this guy in the White House makes me want to puke!

[MED]

I remember reading or hearing somewhere- Decline of the Roman Empire?
Something about the idea that a powerful society begins its' decline as soon as the people learn that they can vote themselves money and/or benefits. That's where we are. To me it has nothing to do with Hitler or Stalin or Hirohito or Mussolini. The Dems entire voting block is rooted in the fact that they are promised more money, more stuff and more benefits if they will vote/elect a Democrat.

True statement!

[cstone]

What does he intend to do when our debtors come collecting? Will we crumble like the Soviet Union and our Generals start selling off guns, tanks, helicopters, etc.? Or will we be able to turn this thing around and someday not have to worry about our grandchildren being forced into poverty because they have to pick up the tab that our leaders couldn't pay?

I'm not sure who the debt collectors will be, but I wouldn't want to be the country that decided to come calling inside the U.S. looking to repossess the property of the 2nd Infantry Division

Generals in the U.S don't sell guns, tanks, helicopters, etc to make money. They sell contracts to high bidders in exchange for lucrative jobs when they retire. This is the American way and it seems to work much better than the former Soviet methods. In the former Soviet system, you had to control it before you could sell it and the fight for control left many former military officers dead.

IMO, whether we pay off our debts now or later, ultimately, I believe we will end up paying the tab in higher interest rates and a lower standard of living both for us and our children.

I've often wondered how it felt and looked to people in Britain when their status in the world declined. Maybe I am watching it happen. I'm not sure.

[jake]

Yeah that.
Can we recover?
Hitler took from the rich to help SPREAD the wealth. The people fell for it and it ended up impoverishing the people.

A moment ago you said it wasn't a Hitler/Obama comparison, but comparing how they came to office (which doesn't work either, as Hitler wasn't elected by deluded masses: he was appointed by a political class and his party never gained a majority in the few elections they took part in). Now you're back to the asinine personal comparisons.

[Ranger]

I remember reading or hearing somewhere- Decline of the Roman Empire?
Something about the idea that a powerful society begins its' decline as soon as the people learn that they can vote themselves money and/or benefits. That's where we are. To me it has nothing to do with Hitler or Stalin or Hirohito or Mussolini. The Dems entire voting block is rooted in the fact that they are promised more money, more stuff and more benefits if they will vote/elect a Democrat.

Yes, entitlement has sunk many world powers throughout history and I agree with your analysis 100%. I've said for years that the more entitlement that US citizens believe they have a right to then the faster our decline. In fact, the entitlement issues we have in this country have happened much faster than other civilizations that took thousands of years to decline.

It's a wicked vicious circle, the people beg for more, the government gives more, the government now has the "right" to restrict rights in exchange for those entitlements, the people get pissed (and still ask for more) and revolt, then history starts to repeat. I love how so many people say "I want, I want" but get bent out of shape when taxes go up - or how people will beg for entitlements, get them and then the government now says "in exchange for this you now have to [insert revocation of privilege here]".

[Mtn.man]

No once again it is the people allowing our government to do what they are doing. We are supposed to have the power not the government.
It could be anyone in office but the people ar letting government NOT by the people to dictate what is happening to America. It has been this way for many many years and we are getting worse. So I guess yes we are seeing the end of America.