Mosque ban in TN

[Zundfolge]

Originally Posted by ubertong
I accept that gays can do whatever with whomever they want and I choose to believe they will burn for it

Before you quote me, make sure its me. I believe Zundfolge made the above comment.

Twas not I (I don't believe that Gays will automatically burn ... we're all sinners, none of us is perfect. Rejection of Christ is the ONLY reason people "burn", so yes I'm saying that Gays can also be Christians ... just like Adulterers, Liars, Thieves, Murderers or any other sinners ... even people like me)

[jake]

Haha, you're right. I apologize. I would say I was drunk but I don't drink because of my reli... well, anyway.

[UberTong]

Twas not I (I don't believe that Gays will automatically burn ... we're all sinners, none of us is perfect. Rejection of Christ is the ONLY reason people "burn", so yes I'm saying that Gays can also be Christians ... just like Adulterers, Liars, Thieves, Murderers or any other sinners ... even people like me)

Hey sorry Z, wasn't trying to bus roll ya buddy. I thought you said it, I know it wasn't me.

[jake]

Twas not I (I don't believe that Gays will automatically burn ... we're all sinners, none of us is perfect. Rejection of Christ is the ONLY reason people "burn", so yes I'm saying that Gays can also be Christians ... just like Adulterers, Liars, Thieves, Murderers or any other sinners ... even people like me)

Nah, ranger made the original comment, for some reason I thought it was ubertong and so I found his agreement with your comments about the WBC strange. But I'm a liberal so reading comprehension is just one of my many deficiencies

[UberTong]

Haha, you're right. I apologize. I would say I was drunk but I don't drink because of my reli... well, anyway.

No problem Jake, it was Ranger that said it.

[Zundfolge]

Nah, ranger made the original comment, for some reason I thought it was ubertong and so I found his agreement with your comments about the WBC strange. But I'm a liberal so reading comprehension is just one of my many deficiencies

Ah, yes it was Ranger.

And as for his comment, it was pretty clear to me he was saying that we are all free to choose how to live, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with your choices (nor you mine), just that I can't stop you from making them.


Political Correctness tends to claim that not only do I have to respect your right to decide how to live, once you've picked something (especially something I find detestable) I have to endorse, encourage, support and ultimately agree with your life choices.

[Ranger]

Ah, yes it was Ranger.

And as for his comment, it was pretty clear to me he was saying that we are all free to choose how to live, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with your choices (nor you mine), just that I can't stop you from making them.

Exactly. I have my beliefs and everyone else has theirs and everyone is correct in their own beliefs. I really have nothing against gays - like I said I have many friends who are - I just think it's clearly laid out in the book that I, personally, believe in. This doesn't mean I'm going to go and slaughter them all for it.

As for the 3000 mosques that are being built and the assumption that Islam will rise in the US and strive to destroy the infidels - well, this may be true and I'll deal with that when it's time to deal with that. This is not a pacifist position but a position in which I believe in the ideals of America even if they don't suit me or cave on themselves and create a threat for the country I love. I can't sacrifice one right without being willing to sacrifice them all - so if I were to go on a killing spree and tell myself that I'm protecting America by doing so then how do I legitimately object when the government decides that Christians are a threat and does the same thing? It's a dangerous precedent that we set when we start to wiggle around the framework and laws and start doing our own thing because we feel something is out of control and it's up to us to fix it.

I'm no lover of Islam or their practices, but good or bad this is a free country and they have the freedom to rise to power and try to destroy us (isn't our "muslim or not" president doing that already?). This may mean that I have to fight to survive when our own freedoms may become our very downfall, but that is the price I pay to be an American.

[Ronin13]

Too late here, my old dentist office 4 blocks away from me is now a Mosque.
Since 9/11 there have been in excess of 3000 building permits issued for Mosque's in the US.
In contrast there have been about 400 for traditional churches/chapels/synagogues.

Do the math.

This can be viewed as attack then invade. It's a classic military tactic that we ourselves have used in the past- (Recent example: Shock and Awe preceding the invasion of Iraq.)
A healthy distrust of Muslims is fully warranted, considering (forgive me for not remembering who said it) because their way of life (not religion) is contrary to our society we enjoy as Americans. Furthermore, not sure if people know this, but their depravity goes on here as well... a man was nearly evicted from his community for claiming that his neighbor's ex-wife be stoned to death for cheating on her "lawful husband" and there are countless tales of Muslim families without permission removing certain "lady parts" from their daughters because it removes "temptation" right here in the USA! Why there is not a bigger outcry over this is beyond my comprehension.
And to retort to jerrymrc, I have spent a year in the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, and have formed my opinion not just from living among it, but also dealing with them -and the moral issues that come with being an American in a country that has different customs than we do- case in point: the moral dilemma of dealing with a mob of angry villagers who are out for blood after a boy from another village "disgraced" one of the elders' granddaughters... what exactly happened is wishy washy, but we surmised that he saw her without much clothing on and smiled at her. It's a violent society that uses extreme punishment for things that over here are usually dealt with outside the court- such as unfaithfulness, blasphemy, etc.
Also- side note: I did read an intelligence report that some German soldiers wanted to detain a village elder for cutting out one of his fellow villagers tongues because he spoke out against Allah and desperately wanted to become a Christian.

[BPTactical]

One thing many don't realize and it really comes to light over the proposed Mosque a couple of blocks away from ground zero: it is Islamic tradition to build a Mosque at a site of Islamic victory in battle.
Slap in the face.

[UberTong]

One thing many don't realize and it really comes to light over the proposed Mosque a couple of blocks away from ground zero: it is Islamic tradition to build a Mosque at a site of Islamic victory in battle.
Slap in the face.

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