unleashed dogs

[mevshooter]

Man, for a forum that is emphatic about "irresponsible gun owners who make the rest of us look bad" a lot of you sure are JUMPING on this individuals backside for wanting someone to respect the same laws this person was.

It doesn't matter if you don't "think" your dog needs to be on a leash, it doesn't matter how "well trained" you also "think" your dog is. I've been charged by pretty much every dog imaginable doing deliveries, and I'm a dog lover, and ALL of these dogs are supposedly "friendly", "nice", etc. I have the sweetest dog in the world, but if you back her into a corner, she'll come after you.

Even domesticated animals have a breaking point. They are, in fact, ANIMALS.

Like I said, LOVE dogs. I think they're one of the greatest gifts we as humans have been given, but there are laws for a reason. It's absurd to see all of these post from people criticizing "gang-bangers" and "littering assholes" and "crazy drivers who don't follow the rules of the road" and then to tell this person to simply "get over it."

This isn't an issue of preference. This individual wasn't at a dog park, where frankly, you are taking your own chances and have to deal with it.

You are walking on a city street, or park, and guess what? You are legally bound to have your animal leashed.

Deal with it, and get over it.

This is an issue of LEGALITY, not canine personality or owner paranoia.

[cysoto]

You are walking on a city street, or park, and guess what? You are legally bound to have your animal leashed.

Deal with it, and get over it.

This is an issue of LEGALITY, not canine personality or owner paranoia.

The crux of this issue is not the legality of municipal leash laws. The underlying issue boils down to whether or not a person has the right to use a stun gun on another person's pet and what the repercussions of this action might be.

[DOC]

There are many "laws" that I don't like. But I follow them anyway because I fancy myself a law abiding person. Having said that, if anyone zapped my dog and I didn't think it was justified. I would kick his ass up one street and down the next. However, since I like to follow the laws I don't think I would be in that situation to begin with so it would be a sick mofo that does something like that to a dog and I would be justified in teaching him or her some manners regarding animals.

[DOC]

Keep a stun gun and zap it just make sure you need to and you aren't just doing it because its non lethal. If you have to stun it you should be justified in shooting it too. Nobody will blame you if it comes down to you or it.

[mevshooter]

The crux of this issue is not the legality of municipal leash laws. The underlying issue boils down to whether or not a person has the right to use a stun gun on another person's pet and what the repercussions of this action might be.

That is ONLY an issue because this individual dealt with a situation where they felt threatened by an animal that was OFF LEASH.

If the animals are leashed, the stun gun becomes a non-issue, as there is no felt need for it.

The issue of whether someone can legally use a stun gun on a domesticated animal is probably cause for a new thread entirely.

[cysoto]

That is ONLY an issue because this individual dealt with a situation where they felt threatened by an animal that was OFF LEASH.

I don't believe you read the OP's question. No one here disagrees with the existence of municipal leash laws or how they are enforced.

What was asked by 10x was:

Can anyone recommend a small stun gun, cell phone size, that I could carry?

[theGinsue]

Bug spray - the type that shoots 20'.

[rockhound]

Pet The Dog Use The Stun Gun On The Owner

[Clint45]

I chewed out the owner but that doesn't make me feel any better.
They dogs weren't attacking just surrounding us and no injuries so it was not a shooting situation.

Can anyone recommend a small stun gun, cell phone size, that I could carry?

Back in the 1980s when stun guns first started becoming regularly available, I carried one thinking that it actually would work like the marketing hype said it would. Then one day I used it on a German Shepherd . . . it made him really angry . . . NEVER use a stun gun on a dog. It is like a wasp sting to them.

[Clint45]

Bug spray - the type that shoots 20'.

NO.

Insecticide is highly toxic and can result in blindness or death. Federal law prohibits use of insecticide for other than its intended purpose and that is a guaranteed felony animal cruelty charge.