Jon Stewart says, why does the media ignore Ron Paul

[Zundfolge]

http://gawker.com/5831167/

Further proof that Jon Stewart is freakin' awesome when he's not limiting himself by being a mouthpeace for the DNC.

Why is it that every other GOP candidate feels like their Tea Party love-affair will end as soon as they take office?

I would argue that Bachman and Cain are genuinely "Tea Party" folk ... Rick Perry I'm not sure about yet.

Why does the Tea Party ignore Ron Paul? That bit I really can't understand.

Its his pacifistic/isolationist side that costs him legitimacy among both the Tea Party and the GOP.

When a foreign organization kills 3000 Americans and your response is "Well I wouldn't do nothin' 'bout that" you lose. Period.

Keep in mind that I really like Ron Paul, but I don't trust him to be "Commander in Chief" of the US armed forces (not that I trust 'Bama either) ... and frankly I still would like him to stay in Congress (or maybe run for Senate) where he actually does some good. As president he'd have 4 years of lame duck grid lock and then go away completely.

[Marlin]

Its his pacifistic/isolationist side that costs him legitimacy among both the Tea Party and the GOP.

When a foreign organization kills 3000 Americans and your response is "Well I wouldn't do nothin' 'bout that" you lose. Period.

Keep in mind that I really like Ron Paul, but I don't trust him to be "Commander in Chief" of the US armed forces (not that I trust 'Bama either) ... and frankly I still would like him to stay in Congress (or maybe run for Senate) where he actually does some good. As president he'd have 4 years of lame duck grid lock and then go away completely.

Pretty much my thoughts on it. Plus, his stance on the southern border.

[ghettodub]

Great video

[Zundfolge]

Pretty much my thoughts on it. Plus, his stance on the southern border.

I think most Republicans and Tea Party folk would forgive him for his stance on the southern border (like they did Bush).


I gotta admit that even though I probably wouldn't vote for Paul in the primaries, the fact that all the media (left and right) completely ignores him (and Cain) drives me a little nuts.

[stevelkinevil]

They ignore him because he scares them, he doesnt tow the line, he doesnt bow to any special interest, his record is unimpeachable (ie no flip flop here) and he wants nothing more than to ruin the little party they have all been having on our dime. Frankly I dont see a problem with his isolationist stance. His border policy? hell Im all for it bringing the boys home and using those resources to protect our borders. People gripe about real change and the govt. interference in our lives, dirty rat fink politicians ripping us off, being in bed with everyone who will have them, but when faced with an opportunity to rid themselves of these things they balk and tow the line for the big two.

with the current system in place this smiley illustrates it perfectly. Them on the left and right and us in the middle taking the beating.

[Hoosier]

When a foreign organization kills 3000 Americans and your response is "Well I wouldn't do nothin' 'bout that" you lose. Period.

I hadn't heard that, and had to go look it up:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politic...e_and_reprisal

Says go after the terrorists, kill the people who did it. Hey that sounds like a nuanced approach that I'm OK with. The idea of an outside force building a national government in Afghanistan would take 100 years and 100 trillion dollars, a total change in their way of life that would take generations to implement. It's cheaper and easier to punish them when they permit terrorists groups inside their borders, while directly attacking the terrorists. We just don't need to foot the bill to give them a proper nation, when they can't hack it themselves.

H.

[tmleadr03]

I hadn't heard that, and had to go look it up:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politic...e_and_reprisal

Says go after the terrorists, kill the people who did it. Hey that sounds like a nuanced approach that I'm OK with. The idea of an outside force building a national government in Afghanistan would take 100 years and 100 trillion dollars, a total change in their way of life that would take generations to implement. It's cheaper and easier to punish them when they permit terrorists groups inside their borders, while directly attacking the terrorists. We just don't need to foot the bill to give them a proper nation, when they can't hack it themselves.

H.

Can't say how much I like that proposal. I would be very ok with getting a letter of marque to go hunting Somali pirates. Or terrorists.

I have been saying for quite a while now that the way to have handled Afghanistan was to go in with a shit ton of firepower/boots on the ground. Kill every terrorist we could find, destroy all the camps and caves we came across, salt the earth in the poppy fields, declare victory and leave.

With the Somali pirates I figured a BN of Marines on a search a destroy mission for a few months. "Marines, go kill some pirates. It is open season and there is no bag limit" would have been a totally ok way to go.


But his Marque and Reprisal is very nice as well.

[Brock Landers]

When a foreign organization kills 3000 Americans and your response is "Well I wouldn't do nothin' 'bout that" you lose. Period.

Drop some bombs on them and that's enough for me. I don't see how a ten year (and counting), trillion dollar nation building adventure benefits the USA at all.

I say rock on Ron Paul!

[TS12000]

I've said it once and I'll say it again, no functioning, safe government/nation (as seen in American eyes) will ever exist in the current area mapped as Afghanistan. To try and prop up a pro-US government that is extremist free is an exercise in futility; ask the British, ask the Russians, shit look at the past ten years and ask yourself. And the whole as many boots on the ground as you can get and bomb the shit out of everything approach doesn't exactly make too many friends either.

[Jer]

I like Ron Paul. A lot.

My first reaction to his Mexican border policy was: Whoah! But after giving it some thought... why are they coming here? Is it the cheap hard work? Not really and even if that's it it's nowhere near as much of a drain on our economy as the free medical care and social programs. That's why they come here ultimately. Cut off the social handouts for anyone/everyone and end the war on drugs and the prices of these items plummets making it not worth all the effort, money and lives to traffic. Suddenly the giant fence to the moon on the southern border isn't as necessary. Some of the things RP says seem a bit extreme compared to what we're all used to but if you really think about them with an open mind it seems the ideas that stand out the most to me at first become the ideas I like the most after I think about them more.

I realize this is all more than a single term could accomplish but if we can get things headed in the right direction it's what this country needs. I don't see anyone else willing to do what's right for this country first and foremost.

Our country needs change if it's going to survive. I'm talking about real change here and not political 'change'.