Some good stuff From Rick Perry

[mcantar18c]

A) It shouldn't be nuts for an elected official to mention GOD. This country was founded on Christian principles, whether you believe in a deity or not. The values that accompany this is what made America once great. You guys (atheists, religion haters, whatever) are way too fucking sensitive on this one.
B) Reference Marlin's signature...SARCASM. Maybe she believes in Zeus too right?

Holy shit... someone actually said it!

Tong, just to play devils advocate here. You would be cool with references to Allah then?

That would be like electing a Communist in the middle of the Cold War.
Whether you accept it or not, the west and the major religions are at war with Islam. Yes, the religion itself, not merely the political aspect of it.

Sure wouldn't. Islam is a pretty drastic example to play devils advocate with. But let me give a better example. An atheist candidate, who didn't believe in God, but believed in the principles, ideals, and values this country was founded on. I wouldn't say whoaaaa this guy is way too Godless for me.

We need some values and some SPINE back in the white house. It's totally different to recommend a religion/social structure that has zero to do with the founding of this country as my post stated. I just don't want to see a guy discredited because he's too religious, when his values and ideals might be what is needed, somebody that stands by his values and ideals.

Just look at the other thread with great quotes from our forefathers that was started today.

I didn't mean to get on whoever posted that one, wasn't my intention.

Run for pres. You'd have my vote.

[Scanker19]

While I have none, I do not care if he is religious or not. When you start to push it on people is when it gets dangerous. We were based on Christian values but at the same time you should not make decisions based on your private religion that will effect millions.

I want to like perry, I want to.......

[Mobat555]

Sure wouldn't. Islam is a pretty drastic example to play devils advocate with. But let me give a better example. An atheist candidate, who didn't believe in God, but believed in the principles, ideals, and values this country was founded on. I wouldn't say whoaaaa this guy is way too Godless for me.

We need some values and some SPINE back in the white house. It's totally different to recommend a religion/social structure that has zero to do with the founding of this country as my post stated. I just don't want to see a guy discredited because he's too religious, when his values and ideals might be what is needed, somebody that stands by his values and ideals.

Out of 44 presidents we had how many are there that did not practice some sort of Christianity (unless you don't count Catholicism)? None, so I guess my response would be that religious affiliation does not always have a bearing on their character.

While my statement is farfetched about Allah, makes you ponder the idea of church and state separation. If another religion gained the majority it would more then likely attempt to force that religions ideals on the population. Look at Europe where the mass exodus of immigrants is threatening their way of life and attempting to instill sharia law.

That would be like electing a Communist in the middle of the Cold War. Whether you accept it or not, the west and the major religions are at war with Islam. Yes, the religion itself, not merely the political aspect of it.

January 3 2007 and March 11 2008 Muslims were elected to congress. If we truly were at war with the religion then why is it freely practiced here?

[DeusExMachina]

That would be like electing a Communist in the middle of the Cold War.
Whether you accept it or not, the west and the major religions are at war with Islam. Yes, the religion itself, not merely the political aspect of it.

I haven't seen that kind of bigoted rhetoric around here in a long time.

[mcantar18c]

Out of 44 presidents we had how many are there that did not practice some sort of Christianity (unless you don't count Catholicism)? None, so I guess my response would be that religious affiliation does not always have a bearing on their character.
The religions practiced by our presidents don't have their followers kill/convert the "infidels."

While my statement is farfetched about Allah, makes you ponder the idea of church and state separation. If another religion gained the majority it would more then likely attempt to force that religions ideals on the population. Look at Europe where the mass exodus of [Muslim] immigrants is threatening their way of life and attempting to instill sharia law.
Looks like you've answered your own question here.


January 3 2007 and March 11 2008 Muslims were elected to congress. If we truly were at war with the religion then why is it freely practiced here?Because we have Freedom of Religion, and that's a double-edged sword.... one that we're now falling on. Allowing Muslims to serve as elected officials is absolutely ridiculous. We wouldn't think of electing a Communist into public service during the Cold War.

I haven't seen that kind of bigoted rhetoric around here in a long time.

They commit violent acts, for the purpose of following the Quran and Allah, against innocents because they are non-Muslims. When you take off the PC goggles, reality becomes painfully obvious.

[DeusExMachina]

They commit violent acts, for the purpose of following the Quran and Allah, against innocents because they are non-Muslims. When you take off the PC goggles, reality becomes painfully obvious.

They commit violent acts, for the purpose of following the Bible and God, against innocents because they are non-Christian. When you take off the PC goggles, reality becomes painfully obvious.

You're right, it does become painfully obvious. The vast majority of peoples, of any race or creed, do not commit such acts. When we generalize this minority as the majority in an attempt to justify further action, the world becomes increasingly a dangerous place.

[mcantar18c]

You're right, it does become painfully obvious. The vast majority of peoples, of any race or creed, do not commit such acts. When we generalize this minority as the majority in an attempt to justify further action, the world becomes increasingly a dangerous place.

You're right, the vast majority do not commit such acts. The problem is that, as I've stated, those that do are the conservative ones that are just doing what the Quran says they should to to be good Muslims. The ones that don't, they're the crazies, the radicals, the extremists in the eyes of Allah. And if they're not following the word of their religious text... they're not really interested in the religion so much as they are in the idea of following a religion. They're the kind that would take the "convert" option over "kill" if they were forced to choose. I don't consider them Muslims... just idiots looking for something to believe in, regardless of what that is.
So yes, we are fighting Islam and its followers.

[bryjcom]

Backed Al Gore and was his campaign manager http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/61428.html

Texas Gov. Rick Perry signed an executive order Feb. 2, requiring all girls entering 6th grade in Texas be vaccinated http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54095

Attended Bilderberg meetings





All you guys thinking Perry is the greatest thing since sliced bread need to wake up and stop listening to Hannity and O'reilly.

Did you guys notice how he's trying to morph into Ron Paul by saying the Fed reserve is "treasonous"????

This guy is diabolical. God save the country if he's elected.

[Sharpienads]

Only ticket I want goes Paul/whocares. The rest of these people are just more of the same, flip floppers with no integrity who want to limit your liberty just as much as the dems, just in a different way.

If by "Paul" you mean Rand Paul, then I'm with you!!!

[Sharpienads]

Backed Al Gore and was his campaign manager http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/61428.html

Texas Gov. Rick Perry signed an executive order Feb. 2, requiring all girls entering 6th grade in Texas be vaccinated http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54095

Attended Bilderberg meetings

All you guys thinking Perry is the greatest thing since sliced bread need to wake up and stop listening to Hannity and O'reilly.

Did you guys notice how he's trying to morph into Ron Paul by saying the Fed reserve is "treasonous"????

This guy is diabolical. God save the country if he's elected.

I don't recall anybody saying he's the perfect candidate. Backed Al Gore in '88? Who hasn't made mistakes in the past? Reagan was a democrat before he became a conservative, and he turned out ok and did some good stuff as president.

If you're looking for a perfect candidate, I highly doubt you'll find him/her. Don't get me wrong, I hate having to settle for a less than desireable candidate.