Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
But when you are old enough to make the decision to have sex, you are making the decision to be mature enough to be a parent. whether the two involved are mature enough to be good parents may be a question but even older people can be horrible parents.
+1. If you make the decision to have sex, you make the decision to be a parent.

I don't know how anybody can get around abortion not being murder.

What really grinds my gears is I remember hearing during the Ft. Hood shooting (and I'm sure this happens all the time) one of those murdered was a pregnant woman. That should be two counts of murder right there. But it wasn't because if it was, than abortion would be murder, too.