Quote Originally Posted by Elhuero View Post
there is a lot of antisemitism that is prevalent at the occupy wal street protests, that has been edited out by the media.

because a lot of the people who are there are very liberal. and generally liberal people are pro palestine rather than israel.

both sides have done good and bad things, but if I had to pick one I'd pick israel.

oh, and what deusex said is absolutely true.

if the revolutionary war had been lost the founding fathers would have been hung as traitors.

if you disagree, then say you disagree. don't have a damn tantrum about it.
Thank you. If the word terrorist had been invented, you bet your ass the British would have called the founding fathers terrorists.

History is written by the victors. That's another statement some people might have issue with.

Quote Originally Posted by Sharpienads View Post
There is a difference between murder and killing. Killing an enemy in time of war who would otherwise kill you is not murder, killing an innocent person regardless of circumstances is murder. To some extent I guess you could say that the above example relies on perspective, but the perspective should be a function of what is right or wrong determined by natural law, not the other way around.

Al Qaeda can believe whatever they want to believe, but that doesn't make it right just because they believe it. If right and wrong are determined by perspective, than anything can be justified.
So murder is bad, but killing is good?

To the guy you're killing, you're murdering him. Saying his perspective isn't valid sounds kind of evil and selfish. As if you're the only person in the universe.

Because they believe it makes it right to them. Thus, perspective.

And yes, anything can be justified. Usually the justification comes from 1) the winner, or 2) the one who's the most convincing.