For those who believe the 'Voting for the Lesser of Two Evils' idea & lovers of freedom everywhere

[Bailey Guns]

I don't think people understand the population. Based on the demographics of this country, there is no way to get a president elected without majority support from the moderates of both parties and a majority of the independents. If the third party doesn't appeal to these people, then the candidate will not be elected. I am never going to agree with these people either, but I would rather join forces with them than see a socialist win. The only solution to nobody being happy is decentralized
government, but that is a clock that can't be turned back.

You're correct on this very important point. Hey...I'd like to see a strict constitutionalist type candidate who's going to solve all our political problems get elected as much as the next guy. The only problem with that is....

I live in the painful world of reality.

[sellersm]

All this assumes the voting process actually works... I'm not saying it does or doesn't, but I just wonder how 'rigged' or 'hacked' it is?

[Sharpienads]

All this assumes the voting process actually works... I'm not saying it does or doesn't, but I just wonder how 'rigged' or 'hacked' it is?

I guess when Dear Leader gets re-elected with 99.9% of the vote and shoots a 38 under par on his next golf outing we'll know how rigged it is.

But seriously, I have my doubts about its integrity as well, regardless of who wins. I wouldn't put it past any of the rats running for federal office.

[sniper7]

a third party vote is a waste. a third party DOES NOT have a chance in hell of winning. It's that kind of thinking that will make this race closer than it needs to be. Voting for 3rd party is equivalent to having 3 horses in the Kentucky derby and you put your life savings on the 3 legged one.

The biggest point of Romeny winning is the potential for 3 SCOTUS justices to be replaced. do you really want 3 more like Kagan and Sotomayer? fuck that noise.

[MED]

All this assumes the voting process actually works... I'm not saying it does or doesn't, but I just wonder how 'rigged' or 'hacked' it is?

The margin of error on elections over the past few decades is pretty low. However, I see the O *hit I’m Screwed is trying to put the organized crime bosses back into big government, which really sucks.

I spent my early years in politics in DC and Washington State as a policy analyst. I met a lot of good people and some rats, but I did not leave because of the people or the rats; I left this career because I saw no hope in it. There are two universal truths quoted by many authors. If a man seeks power, he will abuse it. If the masses find a way to raid the treasury, they will empty it. This country is broken; the barriers and rules to prevent these two simple rules were destroyed and I see no hope of rebuilding them. There are simply not enough people who will surrender their cut of the treasury to rebuild the foundation of this country. We can only hope to delay the inevitable or take it back by force; unfortunately, this is the reality. I think what cstone said was right-on…I just don’t think it will happen.

[roberth]

I don’t care what you call it…call it Realism. One of these two guys will be the next president, and it takes a broad based COALITION of people to elect a president. There is absolutely no way to build a coalition strong enough to elect a president where everybody will view political policy the same way…especially in a country the size of the United States. Unfortunately, the decentralized federal government where states once had rights is a thing of the past. If a person or people are not willing to compromise to some extent to form a coalition, then they will be left out in the cold and be left with somebody truly evil like Obama.

The biggest threat this country ever faced was not Hitler, it was not Hirohito, it was not Stalin, it was not Khrushchev, hell it wasn’t even King George the III. The greatest threat to this nation is Obama. He is the commander and chief and he hates this country; he does not believe in this country, he does not believe this country is the best in the word. It takes all this POS can do to even protect this country. He is a liberation apologist and he is eroding the fabric of this nation a little more each day especially with all the class warfare propaganda coming out of the White House. This man is an internal threat to our way of life with power like no other in our history. We should all rally behind whoever it takes to get this POS out of the White House! Like I said before, I would rally behind Hillary Clinton if I could get this fucker out of the White House.

This is precisely how the GOP works.

The GOP is an inclusive party, they accept all kind of folks. Your basic 3rd party is EXCLUSIVE, they only want folks that hold to their strict ideology.

I would love to vote for something other than the GOP but third parties have done a HORRIBLE and MISERABLE job of promoting themselves to the average voter. Third parties just don't appeal to the broad base of voters required to win high office, it is that pesky exclusive thing again.

This election is the most important one to date in the lives of many of us here. We MUST get Obama out of office in November 2012, I do not want to think about the consequences if we don't.

I think enough of the future to try to give us a chance. If Obama wins there won't be much of a future for this country, Romney gives us a chance.

I will be voting for Romney.

[Bailey Guns]

I have a serious question for Jer or any of the other guys who think Romney=Obama or Democrat=Republican:

Who is running in this election that's a perfect candidate that you will vote for?

Seriously. Obviously the guy you're going to vote for, assuming you'll vote for someone, must be perfect. Because we certainly can't compromise. That would be voting for a lesser evil.

So who is the perfect candidate that's going to get your vote?

[Fentonite]

In a perfect, ideal (aka "make-believe") world, sure, vote with your heart. But I'm afraid we live in the realm of reality. Voting based on emotion just to make a point, especially when the logical/mathematical consequence is contrary to one's own desires, is retarded. It's reminiscent of a ranting liberal 20 year-old college brat who has no real life-experience, but who still thinks they know how to run (save) the world.

Third parties are making progress. I expect that someday they will be able to legitimately compete for office; but we're not there yet. Until we are, I will make my vote based on rational logic, not emotion. If there must be an emotional component, here it is: I know that I will not have to wrestle with my conscience about my vote having contributed to the further socialization of my country.

[MED]

Third parties are making progress. I expect that someday they will be able to legitimately compete for office; but we're not there yet. Until we are, I will make my vote based on rational logic, not emotion. If there must be an emotional component, here it is: I know that I will not have to wrestle with my conscience about my vote having contributed to the further socialization of my country.

We do have multiple parties, they are just cloaked under the “established” coalitions of Democrats and Republicans.

We can break it down in terms of truth in advertising such as:

Communists, socialists, green, labor, and so on…

Independent “Moderates with no particular view just keep it working”

Fiscal conservatives, social conservatives, constitutional, libertarian, and so on…

At the end of the day…these groups will still need to come together to form a coalition regardless of what you call it. If any one particular group forces its will on the coalition, it breaks down.

[gcrookston]

--as a registered Libertarian, that's about all I have to say about that...