The Ban Stands

[Rucker61]

so using some peoples logic....

should the girl scouts allow male scout leaders? allow men to take the young impressionable girls overnight camping? and if not, why wouldnt that be ok?

letting someone who likes to have sex with that particular sex of person, spend alot of close up time with them, would be a recipe for trouble.

unless you are a flaming liberal, and then it all makes sense. we shove our views down your throat, you be tolerant of our views. but, we do not have to be tolerant of your views. libs suck.

Just to make sure I understand, you're saying that all hetero men want to sex all the time with all females, even children? Shouldn't the sanctity of marriage be enough constraint to allow male Girl Scout Leaders? We allow male coaches for female athletic teams, don't we?

[Clint45]

Fancy colored "neckerchiefs" are clearly a gay fashion accessory . . . if they were serious about no gays in Scouting they'd get rid of the colored neckerchiefs.

[HBARleatherneck]

so, its ok, in you liberal mind, for men to share a tent with a young girl in the middle of the woods? i just want to see where you stand, if we didnt allready know.

[sniper7]

Of all the gays I work with I don't know one that is out there during hunting season. I wasn't in the scouts but I know I wouldn't want one of them (at least the ones I've met) as my troop leader.

[brianakell]

Fancy colored "neckerchiefs" are clearly a gay fashion accessory . . . if they were serious about no gays in Scouting they'd get rid of the colored neckerchiefs.

Youre either joking, or an idiot.

As for gays in scouts, its supposed to be the same as fraternaties. Sex simply is not an issue, as its assumed not possible. Men and boys interact on teamwork, leadership, etc. There is no distractions, thus no issues. Take a small group, say 4 boys on a backpack trip for a week, 2 adults are required to go along. Say those 2 happen to be gay, and interested in each other. Now they are paying attention to each other instead of the boys. Problem. Not allowing gays eliminates this issue. Not being tolerant appears to be working well, as the number of molested boys from scout leaders is FAR lower than the catholic priests.

You want gays in scouts, fine, make it scouts, not boy scouts and girl scouts. Many other countrys I can think of has scouting across both genders, male and female leaders. 95% of the girls/women I have ever talked to would love to do the boy scouts thing, they feel girl scouts is lame, focused on stitching, and little craft crap instead of real adventure stuff. FWIW, sleeping arangements are still segregated with these scouts. That will not happen with boy scouts, it would have to be a new organization. Want to build it, let me know.

[Rucker61]

so, its ok, in you liberal mind, for men to share a tent with a young girl in the middle of the woods? i just want to see where you stand, if we didnt allready know.

Why not? Are you afraid of a girl scout in your tent? Are you saying that we shouldn't trust you in a tent in the woods with a girl scout? How many scout trips have just one adult and one child, anyway? Don't most scout camping trips include parents, too? Could a father share a tent with his daughter? Could a father share his tent with a daughter and her fellow scout? Can a single dad allow a sleepover in his house of his daughter and all her friends?

[HBARleatherneck]

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[ANADRILL]

Adam & Eve, not Adam & Steve....

[Rucker61]

see it all comes back to this.

whether you agree or not. and we can all believe what we want.
but,
a good portion of the world, still believes homosexuality is a perversion.
so, along that line of thinking, if they are perverted enough to stick another man in the butt, they might be perverted enough to try and stick a young impressionable child in the butt.

Homosexuality =/= pedophile, the same way that heterosexuality =/= pedophile.

The BSA, did the preemptive and smart thing. Now, its not an issue.

I guess all of the 5000 offenders mentioned in this article are heterosexual pedophiles, then.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1067244.html

Will there still be gay scouts and scout leaders? of course. But, its their organization, and they are running it for the benefit of the majority of the boys. Not for the minority or the scout leaders.

I agree that the organization should be run for the benefit of the scouts. I'm just not agreeing that not allowing gays is in their benefit.

[DD977GM2]

Do you all really worry about this?
I for one am more worried about the pedophile troop leader
molesting my kids then some kid who isnt sure if he is gay or not keeping that
secret to himself while he at Boy Scouts functions etc.
One reason I never let my kids join, not that they wanted to due to our
active lifestyle already in the outdoors.

Kids who are gay do not let that out of the bag for the majority and that majority is around 99.98%