For all you 3rd Party Zealots

[Aloha_Shooter]

I will not vote with fear as a driver anymore too old, too tired. Im going to vote for somone who supports the Constitution and balancing the budget.

The beauty of our system of government is that you're entitled to state your opinion and vote as you want. However, in MY opinion, people that thought as you did are why we got stuck with Slick Willy not once but twice and if we get stuck with O'Bummer a second time, it'll be because of people who hold out for "perfect".

[bryjcom]

The beauty of our system of government is that you're entitled to state your opinion and vote as you want. However, in MY opinion, people that thought as you did are why we got stuck with Slick Willy not once but twice and if we get stuck with O'Bummer a second time, it'll be because of people who hold out for "perfect".

In my opinion, people that think like you are responsible for the continued turds getting nominations and nothing changing.

Imagine if more people thought like us and a 3rd party candidate got 20% of the popular vote. I think that might send some messages to the establishment. Now imagine if the following general election a 3rd party candidate got 40% or 50%.



The bottom line is we need to kill the two party system and get rid of the cancer of voting for the less of two evils. Your mentality hasn't gotten us anywhere.

[Ronin13]

In my opinion, people that think like you are responsible for the continued turds getting nominations and nothing changing.

Imagine if more people thought like us and a 3rd party candidate got 20% of the popular vote. I think that might send some messages to the establishment. Now imagine if the following general election a 3rd party candidate got 40% or 50%.



The bottom line is we need to kill the two party system and get rid of the cancer of voting for the less of two evils. Your mentality hasn't gotten us anywhere.

You guys keep saying that, "Your mentality hasn't gotten us anywhere." How about instead of pointing fingers and playing the blame game you give a little insight, in your opinion, as to how we're going to spread the word and convince the rest. Because by now I think you guys have said it til you're blue in the face and we totally get it, we would love to end the two party system and get a 3rd party candidate elected to help make the changes needed, but I get the impression is that YOU DON'T GET IT- we do, it's not like if we all (members here I mean) vote for a 3rd party they're going to somehow, miraculously, get elected. You have to change a lot of minds away from this thinking, and that cannot happen swiftly, it for sure won't happen this month, this year, hell, I seriously doubt it will happen this DECADE because let's face it, people are stubborn (if you want proof talk to a Democrat, they're pretty stupid and stubborn and never ever ever listen to the other side of the table). You can't change the world overnight, and you're constant (again, not YOU specifically, but people who spout that exact same rhetoric) harping on this "end the two party system, stop with the lesser of two evils crap, you're not helping, blah blah blah" is tired and played out. I don't mean this as an insult to you, but regardless of us getting it or not it's not "us" you need to worry about and berate, it's EVERYONE ELSE that you need to try to convince. For us to recognize the way things are because of everyone else doesn't make it so that we're holding back the 3rd party, it makes it so that we don't waste our vote on someone with a 0.000% chance of getting elected into office in November. Remember, every person who should be voting for Romney that doesn't is taking away a vote from him, and thus giving the upper hand to the Marxist camp of Hussein Obamallama-ding-dong and securing his re-election. Keep that in mind when you hit the voting booth in a few months, please, for the sake of our children and their future.

[Great-Kazoo]

A 3rd party candidate has an uphill battle. Not so much from lack of exposure, but lack of exposure (i know confusing)
The 3rd party candidate gets the word out only to be stiffled by the media and the Dems & GOP. The 08 election had more than 2 people running, however both D&R did everything possible to have said entities denied stage time during debates. The media (surprise) went along with this farce, thus one more obstacle in the way of a 3rd party. Unless a 3rd party can get a good buzz on the web they will face an up hill battle from D&R and any media circus. After all who wants their apple cart turned over by a legit person from outside the 2 party system.

Another thing is a person running for office spends more time & money discrediting an opponent than actually getting a message out there.
Myself, i feel it's time to vote from the roof top in a manner of speaking.

[buffalobo]

You guys keep saying that, "Your mentality hasn't gotten us anywhere." How about instead of pointing fingers and playing the blame game you give a little insight, in your opinion, as to how we're going to spread the word and convince the rest. Because by now I think you guys have said it til you're blue in the face and we totally get it, we would love to end the two party system and get a 3rd party candidate elected to help make the changes needed, but I get the impression is that YOU DON'T GET IT- we do, it's not like if we all (members here I mean) vote for a 3rd party they're going to somehow, miraculously, get elected. You have to change a lot of minds away from this thinking, and that cannot happen swiftly, it for sure won't happen this month, this year, hell, I seriously doubt it will happen this DECADE because let's face it, people are stubborn (if you want proof talk to a Democrat, they're pretty stupid and stubborn and never ever ever listen to the other side of the table). You can't change the world overnight, and you're constant (again, not YOU specifically, but people who spout that exact same rhetoric) harping on this "end the two party system, stop with the lesser of two evils crap, you're not helping, blah blah blah" is tired and played out. I don't mean this as an insult to you, but regardless of us getting it or not it's not "us" you need to worry about and berate, it's EVERYONE ELSE that you need to try to convince. For us to recognize the way things are because of everyone else doesn't make it so that we're holding back the 3rd party, it makes it so that we don't waste our vote on someone with a 0.000% chance of getting elected into office in November. Remember, every person who should be voting for Romney that doesn't is taking away a vote from him, and thus giving the upper hand to the Marxist camp of Hussein Obamallama-ding-dong and securing his re-election. Keep that in mind when you hit the voting booth in a few months, please, for the sake of our children and their future.

You spread the word by talking to people, one at a time. Of course it will take a long time to enlighten enough people to make a difference. But if you never start you will never finish. While doing the slow work of educating people you take the lead in voting for quality, constitution adherent candidates. If a third party(or fourth or fifth) is to ever garner enough votes(I don't think he needs to win, just be a threat to win) to start the break of the two party strangle hold, then you must be williing to vote for him when he has no chance to win, you must be willing to vote for principle.

At some point the transition from no chance to slight chance will happen. When it does then momentum will start to build. As the momentum starts to build the band wagon jumpers(aka the masses too ignorant, lazy or dependent to do other than follow the herd) will start to move that direction and the movement will be impossible to put down.

It begins with being willing to walk the long hard path of voting for principle.

[buffalobo]

Don't care what party a candidate comes from, think party system is in place to fool people into limiting their own choices and start them down the road to accepting what the party states.

I analyze each candidates words, actions and deeds, measure that against the yard stick of constitutional adherence and make my determination.

I have determined that neither the D or R "front runner" even register on the scale. I will not vote for either. Am still looking looking @ the lesser known and unknown candidates.

Eventually I will select and vote for a candidate and hope he or she wins.

I see this process as my civic duty and if everyone did it, we would have very little to fear or worry about.

Pretty simple, to me anyway.