US launches immigration reform

[Ed_S]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19271594
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18467759

Guess he does whatever he wants 'Prosecutorial discretion is the executive's prerogative to apply policies without a debate or approval from the legislative branch.'

[Ronin13]

He's trying to cut down on immigrant unemployment... What about citizen unemployment. I guess those of us here legally don't count. Fuck this guy.

[Pancho Villa]

The economy, contrary to Marx, is not a big pie and adding more people do the mix does not "take away jobs" but adds value.

There's a reason New York isn't the poorest place in the US.

You want to complain about the govt messing with the economy, that's great, I'm right there with you. If you then want the govt to go around...messing with the economy, by trying to keep the US out of the international labor market, and expect that to work out hunky dory? Please.

Why not just legislate that everyone make $100/hr? That'll work great!

This actually irritates me because it's a bandaid on a very serious issue, which is the crappy US visa system inventivizing coming here illegally. Obvious political ploy and doesn't solve the core issue, but I guess better than nothing.

[Ronin13]

The economy, contrary to Marx, is not a big pie and adding more people do the mix does not "take away jobs" but adds value.

There's a reason New York isn't the poorest place in the US.

I'm sorry, I don't understand this logic. So if we have 100 job openings in one town, and there are 150 people out of work (logic assumes that 50 people will still be out of work) and then all of a sudden you add in 100 more people that are legally eligible to work, that someone adds value? So 100 jobs, 250 workers, somehow that's going to prompt people to all of a sudden go, yes, we have more workers! YAY! No. Wrong. Unless it is financially possible and beneficial, jobs won't be suddenly created because the work force grows. If people want to become legal citizens in this country, let them do it the right way, not weasel them in because "they've been here for a while illegally."

[Sharpienads]

Whoever wrote that article spelled "program" and "favoring" wrong.

[BPTactical]

[URL]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19271594 'Prosecutorial discretion is the executive's prerogative to apply policies without a debate or approval from the legislative branch.'

Translation: "I AM the HNIC and will do whatever I want"



Jesus we need somebody to jerk the reins on this guy......

[Big Wall]

Is it just me, or do we hae to rely on the BBC more and more to hear these type stories?

[Sharpienads]

The economy, contrary to Marx, is not a big pie and adding more people do the mix does not "take away jobs" but adds value.

There's a reason New York isn't the poorest place in the US.

You want to complain about the govt messing with the economy, that's great, I'm right there with you. If you then want the govt to go around...messing with the economy, by trying to keep the US out of the international labor market, and expect that to work out hunky dory? Please.

Why not just legislate that everyone make $100/hr? That'll work great!

This actually irritates me because it's a bandaid on a very serious issue, which is the crappy US visa system inventivizing coming here illegally. Obvious political ploy and doesn't solve the core issue, but I guess better than nothing.

I'm sorry, I don't understand this logic. So if we have 100 job openings in one town, and there are 150 people out of work (logic assumes that 50 people will still be out of work) and then all of a sudden you add in 100 more people that are legally eligible to work, that someone adds value? So 100 jobs, 250 workers, somehow that's going to prompt people to all of a sudden go, yes, we have more workers! YAY! No. Wrong. Unless it is financially possible and beneficial, jobs won't be suddenly created because the work force grows. If people want to become legal citizens in this country, let them do it the right way, not weasel them in because "they've been here for a while illegally."

You guys are both right, IMO. You shouldn't be afraid of more people (workers), and in a free market, more workers is a good thing. But that is with all else being equal, which all other things definitely are not equal. There's other factors at play besides just an influx of people.

[Irving]

Well, I can't really see this as being a hot topic issue, so I just wanted to get my name in here before this thread faded into obscurity.

[Sharpienads]

This actually irritates me because it's a bandaid on a very serious issue, which is the crappy US visa system inventivizing coming here illegally. Obvious political ploy and doesn't solve the core issue, but I guess better than nothing.

lol, I know it's just a typo, but you might be on to something here... Inventing an incentive = inventivizing! Brilliant!