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    Quote Originally Posted by coloccw View Post
    Yeah....disagree with the guy at NFA who is 1) a federal agent and 2) does this every day for a living....GREAT advise! I'm suprised you even got an FFL with your "I'll do what I want" attitude. You do know that BATFE reads this forum, right? I suggest when giving advise that may or may not get someone else in legal trouble, that you stick to what you can confirm and leave the things you think you know to campfires and beer stories. If unsure which is which, pick up the phone and call them yourself. Hell, I had to do that regarding barrel length. It took 5 minutes to confirm that I had old info and get it straight. I would think that a businessman, let alone a FFL/SOT holder, would understand this simple principle.


    On a side note: Your not the guy from American Guns, are you? You have the same BS know it all attitude as him.....
    Guy from ATF is a contractor hired to answer the phones (Ken Mason?) ... not a "federal agent".

    I understand the principles involved better than you seem to understand.

    What someone tells you over the phone is not legal advice, unless such person is your lawyer, or a district or US attorney.

    I do not advocate flouting or ignoring the laws of Colorado or the United States. Your essential fallacy is inferring that the "decent advice" give you by a "contractor" constitutes rock bottom legal principle.

    I am not conducting my businesses, or basing my knowledge, on what a call to the ATF branch tells me. I actually read the relevant federal code, and temper my advice with real-world experience against the platitudes and rules of thumb given me over the phone.

    I'm sorry if that's too hard for you. Life isn't necessarily easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Circuits View Post
    Guy from ATF is a contractor hired to answer the phones (Ken Mason?) ... not a "federal agent".

    I understand the principles involved better than you seem to understand.

    What someone tells you over the phone is not legal advice, unless such person is your lawyer, or a district or US attorney.

    I do not advocate flouting or ignoring the laws of Colorado or the United States. Your essential fallacy is inferring that the "decent advice" give you by a "contractor" constitutes rock bottom legal principle.

    I am not conducting my businesses, or basing my knowledge, on what a call to the ATF branch tells me. I actually read the relevant federal code, and temper my advice with real-world experience against the platitudes and rules of thumb given me over the phone.

    I'm sorry if that's too hard for you. Life isn't necessarily easy.

    Again, keep what you think you know to campfire stories. I'l continue with what I can confirm. Either way, you're going to do whatever you want, regardless of what anyone provides or says. Have fun in your little bubble of a world there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coloccw View Post
    Again, keep what you think you know to campfire stories. I'l continue with what I can confirm. Either way, you're going to do whatever you want, regardless of what anyone provides or says. Have fun in your little bubble of a world there.
    I think I'll spread what I "think I know" around more than campfires. You go on confirming and misinforming. You can call me to confirm that, if you need to.

    Thanks for the cheeky advice on my bubble - I'll be sure to check it regularly.
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