Crazy driver harasses cyclists in Boulder

[sniper7]

Screw the bikers. If they can't go the speed limit on the road then they shouldn't be on it. If they are going to be on the road they need yo be plated and titled like every other vehicle and follow the traffic laws. I can't stand the elitist attitude of bicyclists. They can ride their bikes in parks or designated areas where they aren't up against 50k lb semis. What happens if a bicyclist causes an accident? Where is the insurance coverage? If they want to ride the roads they need to play by the same laws.

Maybe the road they were riding on was designated areas "no cyclists". Cause we know how well they pay attention to traffic laws.

[Adawg38]

Screw the bikers. If they can't go the speed limit on the road then they shouldn't be on it. If they are going to be on the road they need yo be plated and titled like every other vehicle and follow the traffic laws. I can't stand the elitist attitude of bicyclists. They can ride their bikes in parks or designated areas where they aren't up against 50k lb semis. What happens if a bicyclist causes an accident? Where is the insurance coverage? If they want to ride the roads they need to play by the same laws.

Maybe the road they were riding on was designated areas "no cyclists". Cause we know how well they pay attention to traffic laws.

^ +1

I don't know how many bicyclists have looked back as I rolled up on them like they were getting ready to come over and then just rode across the road without any other warning. Was behind 1 guy for 3 turns pretty quickly after another and he was flying and every turn he came out in the center of the road before he moved back to the side. Saw 1 guy going downhill no hands texting, wtf? Share the road my a#$, don't ride on the road if you don't have a bike lane. I can't say much for the video other than the guy in the SUV seemed like an a#$ buy YES, what happened before the video? Boulder of all places where everyone has a bike....why do I have to work there!?!

[Musashi]

Hey guys I am also a two wheeled rider whether it be the bike or the motorcycle. Yes there are aholes on bikes as I run into them all the time as I also race. Thing is these people probably drive like crap also - most roadies drive Audi's for some reason. As long as they are following the laws bicyclists have just as much rights as anyone else on the road. That is why they are called "road bikes" and not "sidewalk bikes."

[Rucker61]

most roadies drive Audi's for some reason.

Now that's funny.

I hate bicyclists that can't follow the laws as much as anyone here, as they create the attitudes towards all cyclists that we see here. I don't ride on the road much anymore, as it's too damn dangerous, but I commuted through downtown Seattle when I lived there. It was fun as hell passing buses on the downhills.

[Rucker61]

Heh, I've been stopped at stop signs waiting for a break in traffic (on a bike.) Had other cyclists just blow past me and the sign and stop traffic. Different types of folks, not much you can do.

There's a scene from "Breaking Away" that comes to mind. As far as training them, very few with a team outfit on are actually trainable. What we need is proper enforcement and have them start paying out some fines. Selfish gits.

[Irving]

They were on a two-lane road for motorized vehicles --

Why do you keep saying this? Bicycles are considered vehicles.

[sniper7]

Hey guys I am also a two wheeled rider whether it be the bike or the motorcycle. Yes there are aholes on bikes as I run into them all the time as I also race. Thing is these people probably drive like crap also - most roadies drive Audi's for some reason. As long as they are following the laws bicyclists have just as much rights as anyone else on the road. That is why they are called "road bikes" and not "sidewalk bikes."

so then I ask why they aren't paying road tax and have to have insurance coverage as well?

If they are road bikes, they need to follow the road laws. the great news if they won't have to suffer the "gas tax"

If bikers want to be on the roads, they need to be able to maintain the speed limit. especially on these 2 lane roads, the twisty turny ones that people drive down say at 35-40 mph, or go up at the same speed then they come up on a group of bikers doing 15 or less trying to pedal their way up the hill.

On another note, why aren't these guys in trouble for making a video while biking? if you can't text and drive, you definitely can't take a video on your phone and drive. they want to use the road...they need to have the same rules applied.

[BushMasterBoy]

Below is a link to Colorado law regarding the use of bicyles on the roads.

http://colobikelaw.com/law.php

[Aloha_Shooter]

Thanks BushMasterBoy. So the relevant sections here are:

§ 42-4-1412. Operation of bicycles and other human-powered vehicles

Every person riding a bicycle or electrical assisted bicycle shall have all of the rights and duties applicable to the driver of any other vehicle under this article, except as to special regulations in this article and except as to those provisions which by their nature can have no application. Said riders shall comply with the rules set forth in this section and section 42-4-221, and, when using streets and highways within incorporated cities and towns, shall be subject to local ordinances regulating the operation of bicycles and electrical assisted bicycles as provided in section 42-4-111.

So the bicycles do have a right to use the road (I don't believe anyone said otherwise) but have to abide by rules.

Any person operating a bicycle or an electrical assisted bicycle upon a roadway at less than the normal speed of traffic shall ride in the right-hand lane, subject to the following conditions:

If the right-hand lane then available for traffic is wide enough to be safely shared with overtaking vehicles, a bicyclist shall ride far enough to the right as judged safe by the bicyclist to facilitate the movement of such overtaking vehicles unless other conditions make it unsafe to do so

They WERE in the right-hand (only) lane but was there room to safely overtake them?

§ 42-4-1003. Overtaking a vehicle on the left

The following rules shall govern the overtaking and passing of vehicles proceeding in the same direction, subject to the limitations, exceptions, and special rules stated in this section and sections 42-4-1004 to 42-4-1008:
The driver of a vehicle overtaking another vehicle proceeding in the same direction shall pass to the left of the vehicle at a safe distance and shall not again drive to the right side of the roadway until safely clear of the overtaken vehicle
The driver of a motor vehicle overtaking a bicyclist proceeding in the same direction shall allow the bicyclist at least a three-foot separation between the right side of the driver's vehicle, including all mirrors or other projections, and the left side of the bicyclist at all times.
Except when overtaking and passing on the right is permitted, the driver of an overtaken vehicle shall give way to the right in favor of the overtaking vehicle on audible signal and shall not increase the speed of the driver's vehicle until completely passed by the overtaking vehicle.
Any person who violates any provision of this section commits a class A traffic infraction.

This passage would seem to say that the driver in question did not have room to safely overtake the the bicyclists without committing a class A infraction (which is what I was saying). The driver was doing what he was supposed to do by providing an audible signal and not increasing his speed. The remaining question then is whether the bicyclists gave way properly. They felt they did, the driver obviously didn't. Neither do I. The driver was impatient but the cyclists were and are a__wipes about the whole thing and created an incident that didn't need to exist (which thankfully didn't go beyond honking horns).

[pdr240]

http://www.timescall.com/news/longmo...nstop-colorado