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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpienads View Post
    Ok, so as stated above, he's been "flip-flop-ish". The video has clips from 4 years ago and 10 years ago. It doesn't show his response to alot of the questions. What's your point?
    I guess I'll teach my kids to be politically expedient. No need to have character any more. Good luck with your next globalist puppet.

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    I would have to say that his current stance is much better than Obamas.

    What really matters is who is picking SCOTUS justices, how the house and senate elections fare, and hopefully no underhanded amendments are attached to anything important to both parties/the country
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rust_shackleford View Post
    I guess I'll teach my kids to be politically expedient. No need to have character any more. Good luck with your next globalist puppet.
    Maybe you should teach them about federalism and how different levels of government have different powers/limitations.

    To boil his 2A stance down to political expediency or lack of character is not taking all things into account, IMO. Is it a possibility that since 2002 his views have changed? And if so, are we going to beat him up over it, even if he has legitimately changed into something that we agree with? Or is it possible that what he views as acceptable for a state isn't acceptable at the federal level?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpienads View Post
    Ok, so as stated above, he's been "flip-flop-ish". The video has clips from 4 years ago and 10 years ago. It doesn't show his response to alot of the questions. What's your point?
    Just putting some info out there. Instead of listening to people accuse him or make excuses for him, listen to Romney declare his stance in his own words. Does it matter how long it took him to change his stance? His position was wildly different during the last elected office he held. You either believe in something and stand by it, or in the absence of such integrity you say whatever your advisers say you should to get elected. I agree with you, he's not as 2A-friendly as some believe.
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    When it comes to the 2nd.. it boils down to this fact imho. Obama has been proven to bypass The US Congress by appointing Czars and issuing Executive Orders (In fact he issued 139 executive orders in lesser than 4 years). Our federal govt is designed to check and balance itself, if Obama gets his 2nd term, there is not such thing as check and balance!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChunkyMonkey View Post
    When it comes to the 2nd.. it boils down to this fact imho. Obama has been proven to bypass The US Congress by appointing Czars and issuing Executive Orders (In fact he issued 139 executive orders in lesser than 4 years). Our federal govt is designed to check and balance itself, if Obama gets his 2nd term, there is not such thing as check and balance!
    And W also appointed many czars and issued 291 executive orders in his 8 years in office.

    http://www.archives.gov/federal-regi...ers/wbush.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChunkyMonkey View Post
    When it comes to the 2nd.. it boils down to this fact imho. Obama has been proven to bypass The US Congress by appointing Czars
    True.

    Listing of Executive Branch czars.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...e_branch_czars


    and issuing Executive Orders (In fact he issued 139 executive orders in lesser than 4 years).
    True.

    Listing of numbers of executive orders issued, by President:

    http://www.archives.gov/federal-regi...sposition.html

    In number of executive orders issued by year in office, Obama comes in right after President Bush in lowest average at 38 per year, compared to 36 per year for GWB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teufelhund View Post
    Just putting some info out there. Instead of listening to people accuse him or make excuses for him, listen to Romney declare his stance in his own words. Does it matter how long it took him to change his stance? His position was wildly different during the last elected office he held. You either believe in something and stand by it, or in the absence of such integrity you say whatever your advisers say you should to get elected. I agree with you, he's not as 2A-friendly as some believe.
    You know, I once new a man who did not believe in God and believed that marriage was a outdated bunch of BS, did not believe in corporate anything. We lost touch, he went his way, I went mine. Well time passed and when we met again years later he was married, is a mortgage broker/loan guy, has kids, and is a devout member of his local Church (my hometown Church actually).

    But yanno, people dont change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridge View Post
    And W also appointed many czars and issued 291 executive orders in his 8 years in office.

    http://www.archives.gov/federal-regi...ers/wbush.html
    Fact.. It's Romney vs Obama. I dont know about you.. I don't want another Bush, or Obama.. Obama has proven to be worse than Bush w/ those eo and czars numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChunkyMonkey View Post
    Fact.. It's Romney vs Obama. I dont know about you.. I don't want another Bush, or Obama.. Obama has proven to be worse than Bush w/ those eo and czars numbers.
    Fact: As he hasn't been President, I can't really compare stats that don't exist.

    You make it sound like Obama has been liberal with EOs and czars, when the previous Republican President was about equal on both terms.

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