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If BHO wins, will all the republicans just be blindly mad at Ron Paul, Gary Johnson, Libertarians, etc and blame whatever Obama does on them? Or will Republicans see the internal problems that caused so many to vote 3rd party and change?
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Originally Posted by Ridge
Hmm, no. The GOP is not deciding who the candidate is. It's dump ass voters that decide that. More people voted for dumb ass John McCain. And yes, each election is getting more critical as we slide into socialism. You can't just reverse the direction of the Titanic. You got to slow it down and gradually turn it. I wish there was a quick fix but there isn't. We've got two choices each election. More left or more right. Make your choice. Buck up and get ready for a long long battle. It's not going to change for the good in one election. And guess what!!! In four years it will be the most important election in your life. Get ready for it!
Last edited by ronaldrwl; 10-04-2012 at 10:24. Reason: changed can to can't
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Blame? Thats a liberal issue my man. I wont "blame" anyone. I will tell you that at this point in history, a 3rd party is not going to win a Presidency.
Now, if a 3rd party was to become organized, win elections at the local and state level, have a fair number of actual members of the party elected to Congress (lets say 10-15%), have actual members of the party considered for SCOTUS positions, etc. THEN MAYBE a 3rd party would work. A 3rd party President at this point will be a lame duck and get jack shit done. He will not be respected by either Dems or GOP and the public at large will see him as a charlatan. A vote for a 3rd party President is not a vote for change, its a vote because your being a pissy little brat.
Personally, the 3D party sounds exactly like a Conservative who cannot deal with the reality of modern life, and who wants to go back to the pioneer days. I have yet to talk to a third party supporter who had a real clue about taxes other than "flat tax" or other sweeping generalizations, and who really can only spout off a bunch of generalizations about reducing goverment (hey sounds like a Republican platform!) with no actual method to do it besides radio show commentary of "get rid of all government agencies- why do we need a Department of Agriculture or bla blah blah"- yeah, theres a solution in there somewhere.
Third party supporters keep trying to maintain that both the existing parties are the same, and they are wrong and absolutely close minded when it is suggested they actually look into the policies and history they are basing their opinions on.
Full Disclosure- one of my good friends is a Libertarian, and we argue back and forth a lot. I cant change his belief, and he cannot find enough facts to get me to support his.
They're not? Pretty convenient of them to change the rules on the fly to disallow all Ron Paul delegates. But they're not deciding who the candidate is, I forgot.
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Ron Paul is a distraction that got very few votes. No votes = no canidate
I'll hold you to that after the election.
How is this a bad thing?
Take it easy you presumptuous dick.
The only thing right about what you just said is that Libertarians (a third party) want to go back to the freedoms that Americans had during the "pioneer days". I would contend that most Republicans who vote the ticket no matter what are the ones who cannot deal with reality of modern life.
Clearly you have never listened to the Libertarian platform or any Libertarian candidate speak. "Flat tax" is not even a part of the Libertarian platform. Ron Paul and Gary Johnson both laid out very clear and specific plans for reducing government - In fact, Ron Paul was the only Republican Primary candidate with an actual plan to get America out of debt. It was all on paper with actual numbers and actual specific places where spending would be cut.
If you're gonna talk shit, back it up. Examples por favor.
Thanks for the "full disclosure"... Maybe your friend ought to do his research while you go do yours.
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"When law and morality contradict each other, the citizen has the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense or losing his respect for the law." -Frederic Bastiat
"I am a conservative. Quite possibly I am on the losing side; often I think so. Yet, out of a curious perversity I had rather lose with Socrates, let us say, than win with Lenin."
― Russell Kirk, Author of The Conservative Mind
Nah, it wasn't staged at all!
Losers always go down in history as "distractions". That's the winner's privilege, by whatever means they "won".
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"When law and morality contradict each other, the citizen has the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense or losing his respect for the law." -Frederic Bastiat
"I am a conservative. Quite possibly I am on the losing side; often I think so. Yet, out of a curious perversity I had rather lose with Socrates, let us say, than win with Lenin."
― Russell Kirk, Author of The Conservative Mind
Oddly enough the Titanic hit an iceberg because it didnt stop or turn fast enough.
This country might have had a chance if both parties hadnt nominated progressives.
So a potential competitor to the candidate that the party has already selected is a distraction. Got it. Boy, this whole 'party doesn't select the candidate' stuff sure is confusing.
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What I don't understand is why a Libertarian is running in a Republican primary anyways? He's not a Republican. So get the muck out of our business.
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