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I'm not doubting you at all but this thread is about someone else's house. Someone who currently has no experience. Who is very far away. Where your daughter lives.
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don't buy the safe here either, one of the guys I work with (based in CA) said he has to have a CA approved safe to store his guns in. Though that may only be because of his C&R it's better safe than sorry.
The Hobo
Would it be like this?Originally Posted by hobowh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wypFgcqHyvc
There are a couple things here that are huge red flags and I think that you should reconsider. First you stated that your wife has no working knowledge or training with firearms. Second you stated that you are trying to "Talk her into it" and finally you have shown that both of you need to do a lot of research about the laws and the real implications of the decision for her to own a gun. I am not trying to be hostile here, but you are putting them in a bad position by trying to convince her to do something that she either is not comfortable with or does not want to do.
If you are still even remotely considering getting, or having her get a gun, stop. She needs to want it, and more importantly she needs to want the training first. I know that you have your daughters best interest in mind, but having her mother own a gun does not help that situation in the slightest. She needs to be trained to defend herself and your daughter using as many means as possible, a firearm being just one of them. Use her recent experience to motivate her to seek training and pay for that. It will help her realize and identify danger and stay away from it as opposed to preparing her to shoot her way out of it. Pay for her to get the training and she will find the means that suit her best, and that is the best that you can hope for. Effective use of pressure points and a less than lethal weapon (tazer or mace) is better than an uneducated or untrained person wielding any gun. Plus if she does seek firearm training she will be educated about the laws as they apply to her and will have a better idea about what to get than you do, unless you actively seek out all of the information regarding firearm ownership in her county.
My wife loves guns and has been around them all her life, this is my ex I am talking about. And I have told her that having a firearm without the proper training is or can be worse than not having one. The town she lives in is a very dangerous place so trying to stay away from bad things is really not an option. I want her to have proper training and be confident in using a gun to protect her and my daughter. As much as I would love to have my daughter live with me and be under mine and my wife's care (Really good mom) I would hate to look at my daughter everyday knowing she could not be with her real mom. So it is not just my kid I am worried about, as me and her are very good friends as well. One of the things she has told me was she wanted a knife to carry, do to being in the medical industry she knows were vital arteries and pressure points are. The reason I was not comfortable with that is you have to be up close and personal with a knife, which can be taken and used against her.
Last edited by Atrain1; 10-15-2012 at 14:20.
No it's the same safe you would get here but has a compliance sticker on it. So they can get their cut of the sale price.
The Hobo
Oh I agree and have been telling her the same thing. It is getting to the point to were she is asking me to do right by our daughter if something happens to her, meaning to leave her with her family in California. Now I would not pull her out right away cause this is all she has known for 11 years, but I would eventually have her with me.
Just making sure it seemed like it was kind of directed towards me, sorry if I misunderstood. My belief is if you properly train kids and take their curiosity away you have less to worry about, which is what we did and how I was taught. Even know me and my wife keep everything locked up and ammo separated with the exception of the home defense gun. I have been told in the past that I am wrong and should never have kids around guns which is something I completely disagree with, so that is why I am probably quick to explain why. I have a friend that is trying to teach his kid the same thing, but is kind of starting late IMO and I will say why. He asked me to test his kid which I did. I handed him a blank .22 revolver I have and the first thing he did was pull the trigger, which led to my kid telling him he should not hold a gun (I agree). My daughter's mother does not share the same view I do on guns so she will not ever be around them, so I would imagine that this will be in a safe at all times. If she cannot get a permit she will not carry it in her car or any were but at home, unfortunately CA has crappy laws that gives criminals a great advantage over law abiding citizens. With this thread I am now questioning if my wife should carry a revolver instead of a semi auto? I can clear a jam/stovepipe ect pretty quick, she is a different story. She can shoot pretty good and loves her guns, but I am not sure how she would react under duress. She has a SCCY 9mm as that will be her truck gun once she has tried it out, it has had a good fluff and buff and hand cycles great.
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