Amendment 64...

[Skullworks]

What surprises the #ell out of me is that the giant sleeping monster known as the IRS has not gone full postal over the MMJ we all ready have in CO.

The Federal MJ tax has never been repealed and I'm willing to bet that not one dispensary has even tried to actually pay the Federal tax. So after a few years I could see the IRS auditing all these dispensaries and hitting them up for back taxes. Such action would crush local economies as this has been one of the few growth industries since Obummer took office. ( pun intended )

A (state) amendment is not the way.

I tend to agree with the Nevada method. Legislate, Regulate, then tax the life out of it.

[Milt]

Here we go again, another utilitarian 'argument' over matters of principle...

It is none of your business what I do with my body (for what it might be worth, I find recreational and most 'medical' pharmaceutical use to be the height of folly); it is also none of my business what you do with your body, no matter how badly it might harm you (like the disgusting and really stupid habit of smoking tobacco).

A government that is supposed to protect the unalienable rights of the citizenry has no business violating those rights. Prior restraint, whether it concerns tools like firearms or chemical substances like drugs, is inherently incompatible with Liberty (one of those unalienable rights the government was created to protect).

[Teufelhund]

I've always been concerned that it eas way too easy to amend our state constutution. Tjese proposals need to be enacted as law, not constitutional amendments.

This is a good point. I'm torn on how to vote on this issue; I think I need a venn diagram to help me decide. While I'm opposed to anything that supports the War on Personal Freedom (e.g. war on drugs), I partially agree with the sentiment above. This should be proposed as a measure to repeal existing legislation (new laws to specify something as being not illegal makes no sense); it has no place in any State Constitution.

[Ronin13]

I just wrote this- addressing why 64 is not a good idea- now, disclaimer, it's not from a perspective saying that smoking dope is bad in the whole parental concern area- it addresses the logical and feasibility issues that are connected with this legislation:
http://www.examiner.com/article/colorado-amendment-64
Read, and weigh in your thoughts...

[OneGuy67]

P.S. You have a poll. So now I am an old fart of 54 that grew up in the 60's-70's. A thought. Why not just decriminalize it instead of making it legal?

back in the 70's Oregon decriminalized pot to make possession of under an OZ a traffic ticket. The cops back then did one of two things. You keep it and I write the ticket or I keep it and you go on your way.

I know it sounds strange but that is the way it was circa 1977 in Or-E-Gun.

Just some musings from one who understands.

Jerry,

That is pretty much how it is here in Colorado currently. 2 ounces and less is a non-arrestable petty offense that can result in a ticket that has a maximum fine by statute of $100.00. In fact, I would say that is cheaper than most speeding tickets.

All the proponents of legalization always say something about all the arrests made and cops needing better things to do than arrest people for simple possession. The truth is, a person cannot be arrested for a petty offense; it is a ticketable offense only.

[TFOGGER]

This is a good point. I'm torn on how to vote on this issue; I think I need a venn diagram to help me decide. While I'm opposed to anything that supports the War on Personal Freedom (e.g. war on drugs), I partially agree with the sentiment above. This should be proposed as a measure to repeal existing legislation (new laws to specify something as being not illegal makes no sense); it has no place in any State Constitution.

Helpful?

[Teufelhund]

LOL no. But it was funny anyway.

Here is one I think is funny that I'm also probably going to hell for:

[hatidua]

The marijuana debate is a good bit like gay marriage, abortion, or condo prices on mars: none of them affect me personally. If someone wants to smoke pot, marry someone of their own gender, or buy waterfront property on mars, have at it!

[Great-Kazoo]

Jerry,

That is pretty much how it is here in Colorado currently. 2 ounces and less is a non-arrestable petty offense that can result in a ticket that has a maximum fine by statute of $100.00. In fact, I would say that is cheaper than most speeding tickets.

All the proponents of legalization always say something about all the arrests made and cops needing better things to do than arrest people for simple possession. The truth is, a person cannot be arrested for a petty offense; it is a ticketable offense only.

What's sad is so many people have no clue it's a basic misdemeanor. Yet feel the need for ANOTHER LAW.
Regarding putting a dent in the cartels, never, want to know where weed is coming from in CO? College kids with grow rooms in the homes they rent or own. Personal consumption with the current law for card holders is 3? plants in your home. Not a dent being made there.
Only a weak person allows any form of substance to control them, be it alcohol, pot or other chemicals.
Don't like pot great don't vote yes. It should not be a state constitutional amendment. It should also be left to the states and not the feds, if it is decriminalized or not.

As for the IRS in CO, just wait. The feds hit a brick wall in CA, so they dragged the IRS in and now going after the profits as Ill gotten Gains.

I'm more afraid of the IRS then the feds. Those $%^&8 don't need a reason to seize your shit. IRS, Knock Knock, Seized

[Teufelhund]

What's sad is so many people have no clue it's a basic misdemeanor. Yet feel the need for ANOTHER LAW.
Regarding putting a dent in the cartels, never, want to know where weed is coming from in CO? College kids with grow rooms in the homes they rent or own. Personal consumption with the current law for card holders is 3? plants in your home. Not a dent being made there.
Only a weak person allows any form of substance to control them, be it alcohol, pot or other chemicals.
Don't like pot great don't vote yes. It should not be a state constitutional amendment. It should also be left to the states and not the feds, if it is decriminalized or not.

As for the IRS in CO, just wait. The feds hit a brick wall in CA, so they dragged the IRS in and now going after the profits as Ill gotten Gains.

I'm more afraid of the IRS then the feds. Those $%^&8 don't need a reason to seize your shit. IRS, Knock Knock, Seized

You've got it. That's pretty much what the Constitution says, doesn't it? State Sovereignty, Enumerated Powers and such?

Those IRS boys are not asking politely either.