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    Quote Originally Posted by SA Friday View Post
    Too funny... I was issued a Sig P228 (M11), before that a Beretta 92FS (M9). Couldn't stand the M9. Didn't like the M11 either, but I had no other options so I practiced with it regularly. I was shooting Glocks competitively at the same time and preferred them.

    The OP question at it's roots doesn't really matter. Whatever pistol, it's practicing with it that matters more.
    Let me guess.... you were .mil? I didn't like the M9 either.
    And I already practice the hell out of my Glock now... so maybe that will be the best, but I'd kind of rather have a 9mm since it's about $30 cheaper for bulk at Bass Pro (250rnds for IIRC $60something).
    Quote Originally Posted by coloccw View Post
    Since finances (or lack thereof) is one of your frequent complaints here, shouldn't you be more concerned with getting on with Jeffco before buying and trying to become an "expert" with whatever duty weapon you might be carrying?

    On another note...fundamentals are fundamentals. Either you have them or you dont; you can shoot or you can't. Glock vs Sig doesn't matter much there other than difference in grip angle. Everything thing else is all personal preference and some presentation practice. I would worry about other skills you will need immediately before what pistol, you will be carrying.
    Finances are a problem of the past- I'm good now since moving out of my outrageously expensive apartment. And I'd want to be the best shot I can be with a pistol before getting on a department (something I wish I had done with AR platforms before going into the Army) so I can better my chances of graduating as high as possible in my class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    And I'd want to be the best shot I can be with a pistol before getting on a department (something I wish I had done with AR platforms before going into the Army) so I can better my chances of graduating as high as possible in my class.
    Then you better hit the books rather than the range. You are sounding pretty ignorant of the realities of the job, the academy, and the expectations of law enforcement.

    You want to graduate at the top of the academy class? Read up on Constitutional Law, read and memorize as much as you can of Title 18 and Title 42 in the C.R.S., the Criminal Procedure Code, Criminal Rules/Constitutions, Criminal Procedure Guidelines and officer field manual within the Colorado Peace Officers Handbook. The range consists of a couple of days of a 12-15 week academy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneGuy67 View Post
    You want to graduate at the top of the academy class? Read up on Constitutional Law, read and memorize as much as you can of Title 18 and Title 42 in the C.R.S., the Criminal Procedure Code, Criminal Rules/Constitutions, Criminal Procedure Guidelines and officer field manual within the Colorado Peace Officers Handbook. The range consists of a couple of days of a 12-15 week academy.
    I would add a couple of writing classes and typing well to this list. I lost more than one probationary agent to lack of writing skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneGuy67 View Post
    Then you better hit the books rather than the range. You are sounding pretty ignorant of the realities of the job, the academy, and the expectations of law enforcement.

    You want to graduate at the top of the academy class? Read up on Constitutional Law, read and memorize as much as you can of Title 18 and Title 42 in the C.R.S., the Criminal Procedure Code, Criminal Rules/Constitutions, Criminal Procedure Guidelines and officer field manual within the Colorado Peace Officers Handbook. The range consists of a couple of days of a 12-15 week academy.
    Quote Originally Posted by SA Friday View Post
    I would add a couple of writing classes and typing well to this list. I lost more than one probationary agent to lack of writing skills.
    Good advice often falls on deaf ears and I suspect that will be the case here also. Some of the best shooters to come out of police academies are the ones that entered without any training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidicarus13 View Post
    Good advice often falls on deaf ears and I suspect that will be the case here also. Some of the best shooters to come out of police academies are the ones that entered without any training.
    I noticed the same with the army, a lot of "hunters" thinking they were top shit but would bring bad habits to the range whereas pvt.joeschmo who's never fired a gun in his life learns the fundamentals and shoots better overall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidicarus13 View Post
    Good advice often falls on deaf ears and I suspect that will be the case here also. Some of the best shooters to come out of police academies are the ones that entered without any training.
    Isn't there a psych eval first?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidicarus13 View Post
    Good advice often falls on deaf ears and I suspect that will be the case here also. Some of the best shooters to come out of police academies are the ones that entered without any training.
    Actually that's not the first time I heard that advice, and I intend to utilize that advice- so you can sit down now - I'm already quite a good writer from what people have already told me, and one of my deputy buddies said that is one of the biggest parts of the job and a good way to stay on supervisor and other superior's good list is being able to write a clear, coherent, and concise report every time, and everything they do has to be written in a report.

    Thanks OneGuy- I'll be sure to study up a lot on the Revised Statutes for sure, and do you know of a good resource(s) to pick up Criminal Procedure Code, Criminal Rules/Constitutions, Criminal Procedure Guidelines and the Colorado Peace Officers Handbook?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    Actually that's not the first time I heard that advice, and I intend to utilize that advice- so you can sit down now - I'm already quite a good writer from what people have already told me, and one of my deputy buddies said that is one of the biggest parts of the job and a good way to stay on supervisor and other superior's good list is being able to write a clear, coherent, and concise report every time, and everything they do has to be written in a report.
    Did your deputy buddy say anything to you about run-on sentences?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    Actually that's not the first time I heard that advice, and I intend to utilize that advice- so you can sit down now - I'm already quite a good writer from what people have already told me, and one of my deputy buddies said that is one of the biggest parts of the job and a good way to stay on supervisor and other superior's good list is being able to write a clear, coherent, and concise report every time, and everything they do has to be written in a report.

    Thanks OneGuy- I'll be sure to study up a lot on the Revised Statutes for sure, and do you know of a good resource(s) to pick up Criminal Procedure Code, Criminal Rules/Constitutions, Criminal Procedure Guidelines and the Colorado Peace Officers Handbook?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidicarus13 View Post
    Did your deputy buddy say anything to you about run-on sentences?

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