Well...looks like I got taken. No Police help.

[BuffCyclist]

So you avoid telling us what type of gun it was, who the seller was, how much it cost but contacted the ATF? Troll.

Just FYI: Trolls don't usually post 234 times and then suddenly post spam.

Did you purchase the gun through a forum, armslist, gunbroker? Pay with PayPal (credit card), USPS Money Order, Personal Check or Cashiers Check?

Only thing I can think of where a firearm would not be classified as a firearm, is if it does not include the receiver, in which case it is not a firearm but an upper. My understanding is that even a firearm missing a firing pin or a revolver missing a cylinder are classified as firearms and need to be shipped to FFLs (though thats my opinion without doing research into it).

Might try contacting the police in his city, have his name/address and provide them with all copies of emails between you and seller, and you and ATF. If you tell the police in your city that you received a firearm, shipped directly to your house, they will most likely show up at your house and take it from you and maybe even issue a fine (as you broke the law too).

Again, this is all my take on the situation and without all the details, its hard to say what really happened.

eta: How did he get your home address? Unless you gave it to him directly (though I guess return address label of money sent via mail). But still, very shady.

[WETWRKS]

Just FYI: Trolls don't usually post 234 times and then suddenly post spam.

Did you purchase the gun through a forum, armslist, gunbroker? Pay with PayPal (credit card), USPS Money Order, Personal Check or Cashiers Check?

Only thing I can think of where a firearm would not be classified as a firearm, is if it does not include the receiver, in which case it is not a firearm but an upper. My understanding is that even a firearm missing a firing pin or a revolver missing a cylinder are classified as firearms and need to be shipped to FFLs (though thats my opinion without doing research into it).

Might try contacting the police in his city, have his name/address and provide them with all copies of emails between you and seller, and you and ATF. If you tell the police in your city that you received a firearm, shipped directly to your house, they will most likely show up at your house and take it from you and maybe even issue a fine (as you broke the law too).

Again, this is all my take on the situation and without all the details, its hard to say what really happened.

eta: How did he get your home address? Unless you gave it to him directly (though I guess return address label of money sent via mail). But still, very shady.

Thanks...I didn't deem it worth commenting on the troll accusation.

It was purchased thru the website Subguns. Paid with a certified check.

As for the ATF classification...I disagreed with it thus the reason I still required he ship to a gunstore.

He got the home address off the envelope that I sent the check in.

[Ashton]

Thanks...I didn't deem it worth commenting on the troll accusation.

It was purchased thru the website Subguns. Paid with a certified check.

As for the ATF classification...I disagreed with it thus the reason I still required he ship to a gunstore.

He got the home address off the envelope that I sent the check in.

Rule 1. You need a PO box.
Rule 2. Don't buy a gun unless you've seen it.
Rule 3. Give all the details you can about the transaction.. So even if you can't figure something else none of the rest of us will do business with him.

[WETWRKS]

Rule 1. You need a PO box.
Rule 2. Don't buy a gun unless you've seen it.
Rule 3. Give all the details you can about the transaction.. So even if you can't figure something else none of the rest of us will do business with him.

1. ok...would have stopped him from shipping to me directly. Would NOT have changed the fact that I haven't received everything as agreed on nor would it have chenged that this isn't the gun from the photo.

2. Ok. That limits you to sellers in your area. Also limits what firearms are available to you.

3. I have been jumped for giving out too much info on a seller in the past. I will give name and city only.

Michael Moritomo
Phoenix Arizona

*If the mods feel this is inappropriate they are free to edit that info*

[SAnd]

I would start by contacting the Subguns website owners first. They have a reputation for helping.

[WETWRKS]

I would start by contacting the Subguns website owners first. They have a reputation for helping.

I did. Tom pulled the add and recommended I contact the police. He was also considering blocking the person.