Do Civilians Armed With Guns Ever Capture, Kill, or Otherwise Stop Mass Shooters?

[SideShow Bob]

Same for the shooting at the church in CO Springs a couple years ago.

That was an armed security, if I remember correctly, an off duty LEO. Not a common Joe or Jane with a CCW.

[clublights]

That was an armed security, if I remember correctly, an off duty LEO. Not a common Joe or Jane with a CCW.

She is listed above.. former cop .. volunteer security ... pretty sure she had a CCW...

[ChunkyMonkey]

That was an armed security, if I remember correctly, an off duty LEO. Not a common Joe or Jane with a CCW.

She was not LEO nor security. After the fact, the church moved to protect her by claiming she is a volunteered security. Sadly, the church shy away from her after she came out. Few of my relatives stopped going to that church afterward.

[PSS]

She was not LEO nor security. After the fact, the church moved to protect her by claiming she is a volunteered security. Sadly, the church shy away from her after she came out. Few of my relatives stopped going to that church afterward.

Nooo... a church not agreeing with homosexuality? What is this world coming to?

[hollohas]

That was an armed security, if I remember correctly, an off duty LEO. Not a common Joe or Jane with a CCW.

This is the same argument I have seen the anti's use time and time again. That she wasn't a "civilian" so it doesn't count. She was retired and a volunteer, so yeah, it counts. A retired LEO is a civilian like anyone else.

I carry at church and I volunteer to hangout in the foyer to monitor the church and parking lot during service multiple times each month. Does that mean I am "armed security" and not a civilian? Of course not. I am an armed civilian.

As for the other cases, the anti's always say "well, the killer was done shooting by the time they were confronted by an armed individual, so they didn't actually stop anything." Assumptions and conjecture, always to downplay the actions of a good guy with a gun.