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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnTRourke View Post
    exactly WTF do I pay taxes for??????
    Oh, I know, for all the lazy fucking government employees to sit around and collect pensions and disability, not actually do their fucking job that I already pay for.

    Yeah, this pissed me off also when I saw it.
    Thanks, since about 1/2 the staff works for them. Hope I can repay the complement sometime.


    Liberal leeches on the goverment teet
    As well. Just like saying all cops are bad.......
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    Did not see this thread going this way, was just thinking CCW holders could not have to go through the back ground check...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrymrc View Post
    Thanks, since about 1/2 the staff works for them. Hope I can repay the complement sometime.




    As well. Just like saying all cops are bad.......


    And I Would add that a good portion of the membership works for the government in one form or another.

    I think I have a few new additions to my ignore list..........
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrymrc View Post
    Thanks, since about 1/2 the staff works for them. Hope I can repay the complement sometime.



    Quote Originally Posted by Gunner View Post
    Liberal leeches on the goverment teet
    As well. Just like saying all cops are bad.......
    I was trying to ignore it
    Not all .Gov are leeches

    I worked 5am-5PM Christmas day making sure DOD Networks were up and safe.

    I will be working this Tuesday as well.

    I am such a leech...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byte Stryke View Post
    I was trying to ignore it
    Not all .Gov are leeches

    I worked 5am-5PM Christmas day making sure DOD Networks were up and safe.

    I will be working this Tuesday as well.

    I am such a leech...
    tell you what
    you find someone who DOES NOT get a check from the government who believes that (that not all are leeches)
    then get back to us
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    Quote Originally Posted by SideShow Bob View Post
    And I Would add that a good portion of the membership works for the government in one form or another.

    I think I have a few new additions to my ignore list..........
    while I would quibble with the verb "works" for now I'll let that go

    The rest of your statement seems to state the whole problem?
    When a majority (or extremely large minority) is on the government teat?????

    It's simply not sustainable.

    These 10's of 1000's of people are not buying guns for the first time because they believe all these government employees are good for our future.
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    let's take this one little CBI department for example. To the best of my knowledge they are open 9-9 7 days a week (correct? incorrect? not far off). At least 2 to 3 background checkers on at any one time. 2 shifts a day plus coverage for the extra hours, plus vacation, holidays etc. So there are at least 20 to 30 people who have this "background checker" job. Plus 3 shift supervisors. Plus a department head. Plus about 1/2 of a FTE of an HR person and probably another 1/2 of a FTE of an IT person.
    We're talking 25 to 35 people making on average probably 40,000 to 50,000 PLUS benefits (usually figured at 50% on top of salary) so let's call it $75,000 a year times 25 people.
    so, this one little department is making about 2,000,000 dollars a year. Plus building, room, computers, phones, IT support, heat, cold, etc, etc, etc

    DOING A JOB THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE DONE AT ALL

    since it's already done at the Federal side. (much less the constitutional argument pre-1968 that it was never done before then)

    But it will never be cut. Those people will never be fired, they will continue to get raises, better buildings, more equipment, more benefits, bigger departments, more permanent people, etc.

    I can give more examples, I'm certain everyone can. Even people employed by the government.

    50 to 75% of government is total and utter waste. And everyone knows it even if they won't admit it.

    It's simply not sustainable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnTRourke View Post
    let's take this one little CBI department for example. To the best of my knowledge they are open 9-9 7 days a week (correct? incorrect? not far off). At least 2 to 3 background checkers on at any one time. 2 shifts a day plus coverage for the extra hours, plus vacation, holidays etc. So there are at least 20 to 30 people who have this "background checker" job. Plus 3 shift supervisors. Plus a department head. Plus about 1/2 of a FTE of an HR person and probably another 1/2 of a FTE of an IT person.
    We're talking 25 to 35 people making on average probably 40,000 to 50,000 PLUS benefits (usually figured at 50% on top of salary) so let's call it $75,000 a year times 25 people.
    so, this one little department is making about 2,000,000 dollars a year. Plus building, room, computers, phones, IT support, heat, cold, etc, etc, etc

    DOING A JOB THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE DONE AT ALL

    since it's already done at the Federal side. (much less the constitutional argument pre-1968 that it was never done before then)

    But it will never be cut. Those people will never be fired, they will continue to get raises, better buildings, more equipment, more benefits, bigger departments, more permanent people, etc.

    I can give more examples, I'm certain everyone can. Even people employed by the government.

    50 to 75% of government is total and utter waste. And everyone knows it even if they won't admit it.

    It's simply not sustainable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSB OUTDOORS View Post
    Ya, I remember paying for mine back when the FBI was doing the background checks. Then it was to changed to CBI and had to pay for awhile. Crap I feel old looking back at this.
    you old fart just kidding ,,,, 1k in que and they what more fo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byte Stryke View Post
    preaching to the choir here Brother...
    I blame the commiefornian immigrants
    Well shit if we just nuke the eastern and then southern hemispheres, finally build that wall on the border states, then we won't need you for any network upkeep!! (Canada isn't going to do a thing)

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