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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    You SHOULD care what fence sitters think because whether they are a majority or not (and I suspect they could be), we are NOT a majority. We need them on our side or you can kiss your Right good bye. All the gun banners need to do is sway enough fence sitters for them to get a slim majority in 39 states. You don't need to be rabid but you DO need to calmly, cogently and consistently defend our Rights in ways that make sense and win support from the fence sitters.
    Agree, and well stated. Any extremist views of "no compromise" means kiss it goodbye and have fun with that "1776 Revolution" or whatever.
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    I admire the way Josh handles himself in the interviews. It shows great for gun owners that we aren't all crazy and irrational

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    I guess I was wrong growing up thinking rights, as reiterated in the Constitution and Bill of Rights, were something that couldn't be taken away, that we all are born with...
    Ahhhh. Youth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    I guess I was wrong growing up thinking rights, as reiterated in the Constitution and Bill of Rights, were something that couldn't be taken away, that we all are born with...
    You DID read that the Constitution can be amended? Just what do you think I was referring to when I mentioned slim majorities in 39 states?

    You have private property rights but those can be taken away via eminent domain. I happen to think assault is assault and murder is murder but these days you can actually get a more severe sentence if you say something society doesn't approve of before or while committing the assault. The Bill of Rights was written to enumerate things that couldn't be taken away but liberals have been chipping away at that by redefining the language. At the end of the day, our rights are protected by that fact that a majority of Americans agree they need to be protected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    You DID read that the Constitution can be amended? Just what do you think I was referring to when I mentioned slim majorities in 39 states?

    You have private property rights but those can be taken away via eminent domain. I happen to think assault is assault and murder is murder but these days you can actually get a more severe sentence if you say something society doesn't approve of before or while committing the assault. The Bill of Rights was written to enumerate things that couldn't be taken away but liberals have been chipping away at that by redefining the language. At the end of the day, our rights are protected by that fact that a majority of Americans agree they need to be protected.
    I agree with everything you said here, except they won't try to amend, because they know there currently is no chance in hell for 39 states. Instead they will continue on their path, which is why I said it doesn't really matter. What is going to happen, is going to happen.... there isn't much we can do. It is inevitable. I would rather prepare than waste time preventing.

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