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The only thing I kill is the white edge of paper, but plan to help alleviate the prarie dog problem that curses the eastern Metro area during the summer...I have nothing against hunting or hunters, but Im just not one of them...
wait, do zombies count for hunting?
Great comments. Good to see so many thoughtful posts.
Where to start?
As many have said in their own words, and now I say again in mine:
Guns are tools. Some use their tools for hunting and others for fun, self-defense, competitive purposes, or whatever.
Those (for example, hunters) who think the anti's do NOT see their guns as the next item to ban, are sadly in denial.
If it were "the the way (use) guns were used" the anti's were after, we wouldn't be having this conversation. But it clearly is the tools - regardless of use - they want to ban. All would do well to keep this in mind.
Today's - your/our - hunting rifle, was yesterday's "assualt rifle" remember that the next time you fondly hold grandpa's lever action .30-30...and wonder why anyone would need one of those black rifles.
Truth be told, I used to be (more-or-less) a hunter who only shot a few time a year - mainly to sight in but occasionally for fun. But I am definitely one of the (growing we hope) 14%. So, there is hope.
We've heard of taking a newbie shooting, but what if we all took "only-a-hunter" out to shoot our ARs, like Ted Nuget took Zumbo..
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/03/bu...=1&oref=slogin
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+1!Originally Posted by foxtrot
Oh yeah, and in regards to not hunting big game because you don't like the meat...come with me and I'll get you into the game, and you can donate the meat to me.
If I could, that's about all the meat I'd eat. It is primarily what I eat anyway... (BTW, I'm primarily a meat hunter, trophies only by exception..never figured out a way to make them tasty yet! :-)
+1!
Or to say what I just said, but in another way: The Second Amendment ain't about hunting....wait, do zombies count for hunting?
Last I heard, zombies were like terrorists - open season with no bag limits.
Just the same, let's hope we live in a world where we never have to prove that point...
"As a gun owner, you have to realize that you will be considered extreme by the majority of the American population."
Retired cop and current Front Sight instructor. Spring 2008.
So, someone explain to me again, how we're not all in the same boat?
Oh yeah, choir here. Sorry. I couldn't help myself.
(and my apologizes to those who say me quote that before).
They will never ban your hunting rifle. They will call it a sniper rifle.
I am a shooter, never hunted. I have never been hungry enough to hunt, but came close a couple of years ago. I didn't even shoot until I joined the Army in 1987. now I shoot as often as I can. At least 2x per month and once a week if the range I use is open.
On a different note I really like the position that Barrett has taken. For those of you don't know Barrett does not sell to ANYONE in California, including PD's.
http://www.thegunzone.com/rkba/rkba-50.html
If only all firearm manufacterers had that type of courage. If there is an AWB, than no more M16's to the military. Without guns we cannot fight. That would wake up 99% of Congress and the Senate. 1% would be stoked.
Last edited by westy1970; 06-12-2008 at 08:57.
“Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.” - William Pitt
The most recent issue (July 2008) of America's First Freedom (an NRA magazine) had a great article titled, "The two reasons we must stop Clinton and Obama."
Basically in about 3 pages it argued that the the next incoming US President will likely appoint one or more SCOUS justices (reason 1) and the US's UN Ambassador (reason 2).
They made a very persuasive argument of how the wrong choices in either or both of those cases could undermine the US citizen's RKBA.
If you can get a copy, I recommend the read. I tried to find it online but have not been successful.
Although it seems like a good idea, well, the government would just go to foreign suppliers if all the American gun manufacturers cut off supply. Hell, we purchase our M-16A2's and M-16A4's from FN of Belgium. .
I believe FNH makes them in the US.
I'll defend any law-abiding citizen to have whatever they want for whatever they want to do with it. I don't criminalize an inanimate firearm based on how some criminal might misuse it. Most people in this country are good. If everyone has firearms, the good will far outweigh the evil.
I have hunted in the past, primarily waterfowl. I've stalked deer and gotten so close that shooting them with anything but a pistol or bow wouldn't be sporting. Large game is interesting to me, but I haven't found it worth the expense of pursuing it. I'm primarily a shooter.
We all have the right to self-preservation. I don't understand why everyone with an interest in firearms can't get along.
Liberals never met a slippery slope they didn't grease.
-Me
I wish technology solved people issues. It seems to just reveal them.
-Also Me
I was anticipating someone saying that, either way, it's not an American firm even if it does have a plant here in the US ( which it does. ) I'm sure the Europeans would be more than happy to fill the gap in the case of an American gun-maker strike. Just think of HK with their 'civilians suck' mentality.
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