Obama not a US citizen

[HunterCO]

The lesser of two evils is still evil. McCain will sign an AWB

So in other words voting for somebody who has no chance of winning is voting for the lessor of two evils????

Just a thought but what do I know.

[sniper_tim]

Back to the original post, it is still really odd that when pressed for proof of citizenship, someone would spend lots of time and $ fighting it in court rather than just providing a birth certificate. Mike Rosen addressed this on his show yesterday, and I diddn't listen to the whole show, but i dont' think actual proof was ever provided, the case was just dismissed on merit (even after a judge demanded a birth certificate). makes you go hmmmm.

[elk_chase1]

My wife is HR director for a major airline, and she wouldn't be able to hire BHO with the documentation provided. Hell, Obama couldn't even work as a white house intern. Presidents have to go through a background check for a DOD Top Secret clearance, don't they?

[Gman]

Obama had to run back to Hawaii because of his dying grandmother. He's back on the campaign trail and there's not so much as a mention of his grandmother. His birth records were sealed by the Governor while he was in Hawaii. Surprise!

[bjl913]

[ssf467]

No he wont. He voted against the 94 ban and said in 2007 that he would not support another. Be nice if you would actually check your fact's instead of spouting off your opinions and parroting what you hear from other people as if they are facts.

Your damn near one of the "zombies" yourself.

Foxtrot politicians never lie to get elected. 2007? Wasn't he running for the GOP candidacy? Maybe he won't, maybe he will sign a straight out ban.(you have the faith in him I don't) He did love the gun show loophole law. Maybe an importation ban, or the Dems pass the AWB and then he'll veto knowing they have the votes. Kind of like George Bush signing legislation knowing it was unconstitutional, but saying the the Courts can sort it out. The GOP is selling you out.
Foxtrot I can't wait to see the look of disappointment on you Neo Con's faces when Juan screws you!
I enjoyed serving this Country under Reagan and seeing patriotism on the raise during his reign. Since then I watched civil liberties destroyed by the past three administrations. I had hoped GW would slow down stop the police state, but he made Clinton look conservative. Don't get me started on Iraq.
I saw so much promise with the 94 elections. The Contract with America was a great GOP revolution of conservative thought. What happened? They were going to get rid of the Dept of Education, doubled it. Shrink Government, doubled it.
They attack Sarah Palin for going off message. She is the only one espousing Conservative thoughts.
So call me a moron again, seems a little Juvenal. I'm in Grand Jct if you want to argue over coffee.
http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/moduleid/11

[vim]

Back to the original post, it is still really odd that when pressed for proof of citizenship, someone would spend lots of time and $ fighting it in court rather than just providing a birth certificate. Mike Rosen addressed this on his show yesterday, and I diddn't listen to the whole show, but i dont' think actual proof was ever provided, the case was just dismissed on merit (even after a judge demanded a birth certificate). makes you go hmmmm.

This.

Obama is losing votes over the uncertainty around this issue, so I have to assume that he's not resolving the issue because whatever is on that certificate is NOT going to help him. (My money is on a birth name along the lines of Barry Soetero (sp?), which raises the issue that at some point he deliberately chose a Muslim name, but he says he's not a Muslim, so why would he do that . . . etc.)

Reminds me a lot of Kerry and his military records not being released, actually. For all his protestations, his actions in protecting those records pointed to something very different.

[Sixgun]

There is already a plot to kidnap Obama.

[sniper7]

There is already a plot to kidnap Obama.

[PsychoI3oy]

.. how the hell would that go down? It would not be pretty no matter how it played out....

Then theres another "scary" possibility:
... Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Now, that's all a theoretical scenario, but it has about a 4% chance of coming true exactly as above.

Pretty much, this election has a decent chance of really contributing to tearing the country apart. Scary thing is, there are those naive enough to want that - even on this site.

I've caught myself saying I can't wait till after tuesday for all this to be over, then thinking:


No matter who wins, people are going to be up in arms.

If McCain wins, the left will pull out the 8 year old "rigged voting machines" argument etc.

If Obama wins, the right will point at ACORN as screwing things up, etc.


I wish it would be over Tuesday night, but it won't be, no matter what. (at least the political advertising will be over, I hope)