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RCCrawler
01-22-2013, 22:27
It an amazing thing really. It takes place in hammertown, USA. A place that for 50 weeks a year is a desolate desert dry lake bed, but for 2 weeks it transforms into 50,000 people creating a city in the middle of no where.
You can go to google maps and type in king of the hammers and the location will come up, basically south of Barstow CA and west of Hesperia.
Just last week jalopnik called it one of the top 10 hardest races in the world.
10mm-man
01-22-2013, 22:30
It an amazing thing really. It takes place in hammertown, USA. A place that for 50 weeks a year is a desolate desert dry lake bed, but for 2 weeks it transforms into 50,000 people creating a city in the middle of no where.
You can go to google maps and type in king of the hammers and the location will come up, basically south of Barstow CA and west of Hesperia.
Just last week jalopnik called it one of the top 10 hardest races in the world.
Good luck! i have been doing some searches and that is "one killer race"! I would like to see if i could swing it, been wanting to head to Cali with the new rig! how are accommodation's? Camp? hotel?
RCCrawler
01-22-2013, 23:17
Hotels are long sold out I am sure, you might be able to find a dive hotel in yucca valley. We'll be sleeping in hammertown in the race trailer for about 10 nights.
USAFGopherMike
01-24-2013, 18:38
Hotels are long sold out I am sure, you might be able to find a dive hotel in yucca valley. We'll be sleeping in hammertown in the race trailer for about 10 nights.
I'm jealous. That looks like wicked good fun. I think I've read about this event in Jp magazine. Been going on for decades right?
Got my rig back today finally. 10mm does the Metal Cloak kit come with extended brake lines? I was looking at mine today on the lift and at full droop my brake lines are maxed out. If I flex into without my sway bar connected I will tear them. If you don't have them you should look into that pronto.
10mm-man
01-24-2013, 18:57
Got my rig back today finally. 10mm does the Metal Cloak kit come with extended brake lines? I was looking at mine today on the lift and at full droop my brake lines are maxed out. If I flex into without my sway bar connected I will tear them. If you don't have them you should look into that pronto.
Just unhook them, front has a screw that will release the bracket, rear is a screw also. they will give you about 6-8", sounds a little clinky on the trail but at least they won't break! Yes, my MC lift came with about 12" (might be close to 18", just know they are LONG)brake line extensions that I have not installed yet. My brake lines are dangling and making noise on the trail right now. I'll put them on in a few weeks.......
Edit: might want to extend the vent lines on the axles as well, mine pop off from extending so far. I fixed by adding about 12" of line...
You're wheeling with no rear brakes?
Never mind, I just figured out what you meant.
10mm-man
01-25-2013, 00:15
You're wheeling with no rear brakes?
The only way to run! ha
Ran into these guys and followed them on the trail since they knew it better than I. My black Rubi can be seen starting at 7:07
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USAFGopherMike
01-25-2013, 01:14
Cool video. Thanks for posting. Where is that trail?
RCCrawler
01-25-2013, 08:04
I'm jealous. That looks like wicked good fun. I think I've read about this event in Jp magazine. Been going on for decades right?
Pretty sure this is the 7th year, 4th year I've been.
10mm-man
01-25-2013, 21:52
Cool video. Thanks for posting. Where is that trail?
I think it is called "left hand" North West of Boulder behind the shooting range..
Edit: Spelling- laft hand to "left hand"
Yes, Lefthand Canyon. Is even says in the title. On Lefthand Canyon Dr. off of US36 North out of Boulder.
USAFGopherMike
01-27-2013, 16:29
Yes, Lefthand Canyon. Is even says in the title. On Lefthand Canyon Dr. off of US36 North out of Boulder.
Oh. Awesome. That's only about an hour from my place. I thought it was closed?
In other news, I picked up a used 700r4 out of 1990 fullsize, k-case. No idea of internals condition, but it looks really good from the outside. I'm planning on building it right the first time. I'll be going to 4.88s in the rear 8.8/front D30. That and a cooler should keep temps down. Anybody dealt with a reputable tranny builder in NoCo who has decent experience with the 700r4? Planning upgraded sunshell, planetaries, clutches, pump, pan, and cooler. Also, I'm hoping to keep the 231 but think I need to upgrade the input shaft since the 700 has a 27 spline output. Anyone been down this road?
Not sure if I have posted this yet or not. Me and my boys out In moab last summer!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgg_L6QqdH4&list=UUjHL1vfQ8dfvXsgofxiPcLw& index=4
USAFGopherMike
01-27-2013, 18:27
Not sure if I have posted this yet or not. Me and my boys out In moab last summer!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgg_L6QqdH4&list=UUjHL1vfQ8dfvXsgofxiPcLw& index=4
Great vid! Love the lead rig in dark green. Some nice flex there. I'm hoping to get out to Moab this summer if I get my tranny swap done.
Thanks! green one is mine.
10mm-man, how far, if at all, did that Lexus make it up the Left Hand Canyon trail? It looked awefully stock to me.
10mm-man
01-27-2013, 20:25
10mm-man, how far, if at all, did that Lexus make it up the Left Hand Canyon trail? It looked awefully stock to me.
LOL! It BROKE.... Didn't make it at all! The other rig had to be winched down, he lost his motor. It's the one being winched part way through the video.
blacklabel
01-27-2013, 20:33
LOL! It BROKE.... Didn't make it at all! The other rig had to be winched down, he lost his motor. It's the one being winched part way through the video.
I saw it enter the frame and saw disaster coming. What did he break?
10mm-man
01-27-2013, 20:40
I saw it enter the frame and saw disaster coming. What did he break?
I saw them pulling the gears out, I am not sure. I moved on with the pack and at the end kept moving. There was a pretty good size group and it split into those that were broke and working on em to those that weren't and kept going. I was in the 2nd group...
What is the general clearance and equipment for that trail? 33" tires and up?
10mm-man
01-27-2013, 23:26
What is the general clearance and equipment for that trail? 33" tires and up?
I would say 33" would do it. Consider this: 2 Slightly modified XJ were going up, they pulled over let me go by. Came up about another 200 yards and turned around. I am not sure about lockers, if they are needed or not, I use mine because I have em. I am always out, I was out and about today! guess what i am saying is; "Come on out!"
I want a trail that I can test the restrictions of what I have now, without beating it up. My truck has lots of drawbacks, but it's paid off. I want to find out if it sucks too bad to keep. I'll make it some time.
10mm-man
01-28-2013, 00:21
I want a trail that I can test the restrictions of what I have now, without beating it up. My truck has lots of drawbacks, but it's paid off. I want to find out if it sucks too bad to keep. I'll make it some time.
I think that trail will test it just fine!
I don't have 33" tires though. Only 30". I might be able to get away with some stuff because of the relatively short wheel base, but not everything.
10mm-man
01-28-2013, 09:39
I want a trail that I can test the restrictions of what I have now, without beating it up.
There are a lot of challenging parts on that trail, you can by-pass some, you might not make it all the way around, but it will give you a good idea of your trucks capability. If you go stay to the left and by-pass the 1st trail to the right, that's were the stock one broke down.
USAFGopherMike
01-28-2013, 11:19
I was eyeing some Dana 60s yesterday. Excuse to go out and thrash the 8.8/D30? I've never opened the axles but have receipts from the p.o. saying they're built/locked. Haven't yet tested them. Possibility of a run in the next few days? My stock 5 speed isn't going to last much longer behind the 350. Researching my 700r4 build now.
10mm-man
01-28-2013, 17:14
I was eyeing some Dana 60s yesterday. Excuse to go out and thrash the 8.8/D30? I've never opened the axles but have receipts from the p.o. saying they're built/locked. Haven't yet tested them. Possibility of a run in the next few days? My stock 5 speed isn't going to last much longer behind the 350. Researching my 700r4 build now.
Your build is going to be sweet!! Send Kilovictor a PM about the needed work on the 700r4. He just got one built, he did a lot of research and could prob recommend someone to built it for ya!
If you guys are doing a run in the next few days I am in! I'll bring the pup and we will go have some fun!
10mm-man
01-29-2013, 14:38
If you guys are doing a run in the next few days I am in! I'll bring the pup and we will go have some fun!
I am in tentively for Thursday
USAFGopherMike
01-29-2013, 16:28
Your build is going to be sweet!! Send Kilovictor a PM about the needed work on the 700r4. He just got one built, he did a lot of research and could prob recommend someone to built it for ya!
Thanks man. I'll hit him up. I may be able to make Thursday as well! As far as a build, it's a work in progress... aren't they all. Right now it's trail ready with a weak cooling system and tranny that won't last long. I have 60% of the components I need to upgrade the cooling. Also need to reinstall the heater and find a winch. CB showed up yesterday. Now need to get/build an overhead cage mount for it and buy cable/antenna. Don't currently have a mount for the spare either :(
10mm-man
01-29-2013, 16:46
CB showed up yesterday. Now need to get/build an overhead cage mount for it and buy cable/antenna. :(
I have a brand new one sitting in the box waiting to be installed, I have been trying to decide the best place to put it...... I think I will mount it off the center u shaped bracket that the t-tops go into. Now to decide the best place for the antennae.
As for Thursday were you all thinking? how far can you travel gopher?
USAFGopherMike
01-29-2013, 22:56
I was thinking midday, 12-1-ish meet up in the boulder area? Most of the trails in NoCo are closed, but did you say you guys hit one near Boulder the other day that was open?
firecrackerktm
01-29-2013, 23:53
Hi, late to the party. I've met some of the CO4x4 guys on here but lately I've been shooting more than Jeeping (do not ask me why, it is not any cheaper)
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/FirecrackerKTM/Jeep%20pics/2012-09-03181229.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/FirecrackerKTM/Moab/IMG_2610.jpg
10mm-man
01-30-2013, 14:48
I was thinking midday, 12-1-ish meet up in the boulder area? Most of the trails in NoCo are closed, but did you say you guys hit one near Boulder the other day that was open?
I am out for Thursday; I was reminded I have a walk Thru @ 1pm. I might be able to skip it if you guys can't do Friday? Yes Boulder is open done it twice already (zzzzzzzzzzz), anything else?
Hi, late to the party. I've met some of the CO4x4 guys on here but lately I've been shooting more than Jeeping (do not ask me why, it is not any cheaper)
Welcome! You ready for Thursday or Friday?
firecrackerktm
01-31-2013, 09:23
No I have school and work :(
USAFGopherMike
01-31-2013, 10:32
I'm at the vet now but can possibly do a run this afternoon, Friday is probably a no-go. Taking a coworker in for knee surgery.
10mm-man
01-31-2013, 11:00
I'm at the vet now but can possibly do a run this afternoon, Friday is probably a no-go. Taking a coworker in for knee surgery.
Afternoon would have to be after 1pm...... Who is in?
USAFGopherMike
01-31-2013, 11:18
Afternoon would have to be after 1pm...... Who is in?
Can probably swing that as long dog isn't puking everywhere. Lets try to get at least one more.
Where are you guys going?
Walker2970
01-31-2013, 13:46
my beast right now getting ready for a 5.0 heart transplant
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USAFGopherMike
01-31-2013, 14:13
Where are you guys going?
Trying to figure that out now. You have a trail in mind? I can be ready in 10 mins.
USAFGopherMike
01-31-2013, 20:57
What a great afternoon on Left Hand Canyon! http://www.traildamage.com/trails/index.php?id=6 Nobody got stuck, we ran almost the whole trail system, and the only breakage was a brake line on 10mm's rig. Thanks for leading man! Pics and a video to follow.
10mm-man
01-31-2013, 21:04
What a great afternoon on Left Hand Canyon! http://www.traildamage.com/trails/index.php?id=6 Nobody got stuck, we ran almost the whole trail system, and the only breakage was a brake line on 10mm's rig. Thanks for leading man! Pics and a video to follow.
It was a good time! These will be on 1st thing in the A.M.!! Some advice; if you lift it, extend your brake lines, if you don't; braking distance on the road going 45 is at least 100 yards!!! Expect some puckker factor..........
PIC'S MAN, PIC's!! lol
USAFGopherMike
01-31-2013, 21:13
They're comin man. My phone died so it's charging. The video of you climbing that last run came out great. I got some great shots of T-giv too.
10mm-man
01-31-2013, 21:15
They're comin man. My phone died so it's charging. The video of you climbing that last run came out great. I got some great shots of T-giv too.
SWEET!
USAFGopherMike
01-31-2013, 21:23
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T-Giv on the edge. Had the whole front end airborne at one point!
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Up top of the switch backs after the first challenging section. My jeep needed to cool off.
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Following 10mm-man up a rocky section
USAFGopherMike
01-31-2013, 21:33
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A quick shot out the door of T-giv
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Over the crest and heading back down in the snow
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Steepish downhill
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Those HIDs were bright!
USAFGopherMike
01-31-2013, 21:44
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10mm-man in the low gear crawling down the hill
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I guess brake lights still work without fluid? :)
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Steps?
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The Tuxedo Jeeps all dressed up and ready to party
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Front to back: The Grocery Wagon with stupid traction - The square-eyed leaky overheater - The Bright-eyed and bushy tailed"who needs a locker!", look out for my stinger!
Great day indeed! Love the photo captions, definitely cracked me up. Count me in for wheeling with you dudes any day!
USAFGopherMike
01-31-2013, 22:02
10mm-man making it look easy... then again... with an autobox, lockers and gobs of traction, all he had to do was steer. [fyou]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScBqxzuTHVs
10mm-man
01-31-2013, 22:10
10mm-man making it look easy... then again... with an autobox, lockers and gobs of traction, all he had to do was steer. [fyou]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScBqxzuTHVs
It was all "driving skill"! ha! That video makes that hill look flat! Or was it the Rubi?
USAFGopherMike
01-31-2013, 22:19
It was all "driving skill"! ha! That video makes that hill look flat! Or was it the Rubi?
No, you're right, it was pretty flat. [flamethrower]
Is that Fireman's Hill, or Fireman's Chute or something? I'm pretty sure I went down that part once years ago. Pretty scary without good articulation.
10mm-man
01-31-2013, 23:29
No, you're right, it was pretty flat. [flamethrower]
See I told you guys it was flat, but no; we will wait right here at the bottom!
Is that Fireman's Hill, or Fireman's Chute or something? I'm pretty sure I went down that part once years ago. Pretty scary without good articulation.
yea, i believe that was it
I just checked the pictures on page 2. In my pictures, there seem to be a lot less trees in the background.
10mm-man
01-31-2013, 23:57
I just checked the pictures on page 2. In my pictures, there seem to be a lot less trees in the background.
Actually fireman hill was done before this one. This was the 1st steep hill going to fireman but i hit it last.
http://www.traildamage.com/trails/photo_pop.php?d=left_hand_canyon/060318&t=Up%20The%20Playground%20Part%202&f=up_the_playground_part_2.jpg
look for a pic w/ 286c in the right hand corner. This was the hill
Red trail and Blue trail is what we did. Bypassing big Momma and old playground. Rocky hill is were i pinched my brake line and lost brakes. Old playground is what I went up and down.
Either way, you made it look easy.
10mm-man
02-01-2013, 00:42
Saturday anyone?
USAFGopherMike
02-01-2013, 00:50
I have to work :( but I might be home by 1 if I'm really lucky. What did you have in mind?
nissanclay
02-01-2013, 01:02
Not a jeep but I'll throw my Nissan Frontier in the mix. It has a Jeep axle shaft if that counts. ;-)
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa122/nissanclay/545582_3363034912374_537962381_n_zps49b86f83.jpg
USAFGopherMike
02-01-2013, 10:41
Not a jeep but I'll throw my Nissan Frontier in the mix. It has a Jeep axle shaft if that counts. ;-)
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa122/nissanclay/545582_3363034912374_537962381_n_zps49b86f83.jpg
Holy articulation batman. I really don't care what you drive if you like to wheel. [thumbs]
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T-Giv on the edge. Had the whole front end airborne at one point!
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Up top of the switch backs after the first challenging section. My jeep needed to cool off.
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Following 10mm-man up a rocky section
!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've been up that run with my STOCK Nissan Titan. We didn't go to the very top, but that rock section was fun. Sam with a little higher up the hill - needed a spotter with the non-lifted trucks.
I would be down for a run Saturday but I also work. I am doing some wrenching today with an oil change and removing that rear sway bar to try it out. I wish someone had caught my first wheelie on camera!
USAFGopherMike
02-01-2013, 11:03
I would be down for a run Saturday but I also work. I am doing some wrenching today with an oil change and removing that rear sway bar to try it out. I wish someone had caught my first wheelie on camera!
Me too man, I was nervous when that happened.
FLy - A rear locker and set of 35s or better makes all the difference.
That pic of me going up that rocky section shows the crazy limited articulation with the sway bar connected! My front driver wheel is off the ground and barely any articulation. My Rock Krawler lift is so great but not when it's connected.
10mm-man
02-01-2013, 20:18
That pic of me going up that rocky section shows the crazy limited articulation with the sway bar connected! My front driver wheel is off the ground and barely any articulation. My Rock Krawler lift is so great but not when it's connected.
Why did you not disconnect again? brake lines? Speaking of, all done............
I bet they came out sweet! I, on the other hand, just went through the worst car experience of my entire life. Went to pull the rear sway bar today and change the oil. Sway bar came out in about 10 minutes while the oil drained, no big deal. Put the drain cap back on and went to pull the oil filter and it didn't even budge. So, gave it a wrench with a filter wrench and nada. Tried the drastic screw driver through the filter and the filter tore in half. I have never in all of my life seen a filter that tight. The one time I don't change the oil myself because we were in the process of moving and look what I get. I swear they must have used some form of locking solvent on it! It took me SIX HOURS to get it off. I shit you negative on the six hours. I had to use every tool in my arsenal. Believe it or not the Reciprocating Saw ended up pushing me through to the end. By the time I got it off the entire filter had been removed and all that was left was the threaded on portion. I am aching all over and my fingers are black and blue. I am beyond pissed and exhausted. [Mad]
Pics to come tomorrow of the oil filter that I will never be getting rid of. I also drove the rig to Chick Fil A after to calm my nerves with a Sweet Tea and I noticed no difference in handling without the rear on, even on the highway. Go figure. Goodnight fellow Jeepers. Additionally for those who care, Alamo made it through his ball chopping and he is on the road to recovery. He is somewhat fussy and whimpers a lot but he should make a full recovery.
10mm-man
02-02-2013, 00:01
I bet they came out sweet! I, on the other hand, just went through the worst car experience of my entire life. Went to pull the rear sway bar today and change the oil. Sway bar came out in about 10 minutes while the oil drained, no big deal. Put the drain cap back on and went to pull the oil filter and it didn't even budge. So, gave it a wrench with a filter wrench and nada. Tried the drastic screw driver through the filter and the filter tore in half. I have never in all of my life seen a filter that tight. The one time I don't change the oil myself because we were in the process of moving and look what I get. I swear they must have used some form of locking solvent on it! It took me SIX HOURS to get it off. I shit you negative on the six hours. I had to use every tool in my arsenal. Believe it or not the Reciprocating Saw ended up pushing me through to the end. By the time I got it off the entire filter had been removed and all that was left was the threaded on portion. I am aching all over and my fingers are black and blue. I am beyond pissed and exhausted. [Mad]
Pics to come tomorrow of the oil filter that I will never be getting rid of. I also drove the rig to Chick Fil A after to calm my nerves with a Sweet Tea and I noticed no difference in handling without the rear on, even on the highway. Go figure. Goodnight fellow Jeepers. Additionally for those who care, Alamo made it through his ball chopping and he is on the road to recovery. He is somewhat fussy and whimpers a lot but he should make a full recovery.
Alamo was in our prayers today! Pour guy is a gal now..... Ha! Sucks on the filter man, looking forward to pic's...... Going out at 7am tomorrow on a run. If anyone reads this and want to go we will be at Plumb creek and I-25 in Castle Rock at the walgreens. or call me at 720-213-6016
http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt159/Givnasty/DFB063FB-B4DB-4E1C-8CDC-91C50D926689-4111-00000115A3553FFC_zpsdbb775ab.jpg
http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt159/Givnasty/52819C69-92FA-4A0C-B9E0-1379EA865A42-4111-000001161386967A_zpscb68c9a5.jpg
http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt159/Givnasty/70980A9A-E359-4D28-AFC9-734CB35FAFCB-4111-00000115A1731636_zps079d72a1.jpg
If there is one positive thing that came from yesterday it's that I got to use my new impact sockets, air tools, and Powertank.
USAFGopherMike
02-02-2013, 19:06
Poor doggy. Our male just started chemo this week. :(
6 hours! Fuck. I spent the entire day in the simulator hungover. How was the run? Any pics?
10mm-man
02-02-2013, 19:06
http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt159/Givnasty/DFB063FB-B4DB-4E1C-8CDC-91C50D926689-4111-00000115A3553FFC_zpsdbb775ab.jpg
http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt159/Givnasty/52819C69-92FA-4A0C-B9E0-1379EA865A42-4111-000001161386967A_zpscb68c9a5.jpg
http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt159/Givnasty/70980A9A-E359-4D28-AFC9-734CB35FAFCB-4111-00000115A1731636_zps079d72a1.jpg
If there is one positive thing that came from yesterday it's that I got to use my new impact sockets, air tools, and Powertank.
Ahhhh pore Alamo they took him man Hood away- My son said
10mm-man
02-02-2013, 19:07
Poor doggy. Our male just started chemo this week. :(
6 hours! Fuck. I spent the entire day in the simulator hungover. How was the run? Any pics?
What were you flying?
USAFGopherMike
02-02-2013, 19:21
ICBM capsule
10mm-man
02-02-2013, 19:30
ICBM capsule
I want to sim it! How long was the sim time? Thought those things were programmed.................[fag]
10mm-man
02-02-2013, 19:30
How is the dog holding up after chemo?
USAFGopherMike
02-02-2013, 20:38
I want to sim it! How long was the sim time? Thought those things were programmed.................[fag]
5.5 hours, tough one too. I was spent afterwards; and you have no idea how [fag]it is.
Bubba's doing well so far. He's on steroids and got his first shot this week. Next week is the pill that might make him sick.
10mm-man
02-02-2013, 22:00
5.5 hours, tough one too. I was spent afterwards; and you have no idea how [fag]it is.
Bubba's doing well so far. He's on steroids and got his first shot this week. Next week is the pill that might make him sick.
What's it like in one of those? Solo or with others?
USAFGopherMike
02-02-2013, 22:34
Crew of two. Suspended floor, side by side workstations with four screens, comm stations, lots of classified materials/documents, big metal racks holding comm gear, an emergency air conditioner, two chairs on rails that slide or can be locked in place. 80 feet underground behind two giant blast doors.
10mm-man
02-02-2013, 22:41
Crew of two. Suspended floor, side by side workstations with four screens, comm stations, lots of classified materials/documents, big metal racks holding comm gear, an emergency air conditioner, two chairs on rails that slide or can be locked in place. 80 feet underground behind two giant blast doors.
You sure it's a simulator? ha
USAFGopherMike
02-02-2013, 23:22
You sure it's a simulator? ha
I thought you meant the actual capsule.
10mm-man
02-03-2013, 19:21
I thought you meant the actual capsule.
That has gotta actually be pretty B.A.
USAFGopherMike
02-04-2013, 05:25
I'm in one right now. It's not bad ass to me. I wish I was at home in my bed. It's 0425 and I've been awake for the last 23 hours.
10mm-man
02-05-2013, 23:02
T-Giv going at it! This hill is steeper than it looks and contrary to what we say; we believed he could do it!
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10mm-man
02-06-2013, 00:36
Videos are private.
Give me a min...
Should be GTG
USAFGopherMike
02-06-2013, 03:43
Great vids! Where was this?
10mm-man
02-06-2013, 10:34
Great vids! Where was this?
To get to those type's of trails you will have to be willing to travel farther south than Boulder.......... Can't tell you until you commit to a run further south than say, Golden!
USAFGopherMike
02-06-2013, 13:08
To get to those type's of trails you will have to be willing to travel farther south than Boulder.......... Can't tell you until you commit to a run further south than say, Golden!
This will take some planning... but I'm down.
10mm-man
02-06-2013, 16:12
She is stuffed and stretched.....
In this video this Toyota had to winch up about 3 different times- 1 1/2 hours later, he is up!
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This is how you do it with out a winch:
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Here's a pic of my recent Jeep purchase. 2003 X w/Softtop. Hoping to get some trails in soon.
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10mm-man
02-06-2013, 17:08
Here's a pic of my recent Jeep purchase. 2007 X w/Softtop. Hoping to get some trails in soon.
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What kind of trails are you wanting to hit? If your looking at wanting to do the majority of the ones in Colorado you will need; lift, tires, winch, lockers, etc. Right now you can do the majority of the dirt roads, but getting off road will be challenging stock.
Zundfolge
02-06-2013, 17:15
What kind of trails are you wanting to hit? If your looking at wanting to do the majority of the ones in Colorado you will need; lift, tires, winch, lockers, etc. Right now you can do the majority of the dirt roads, but getting off road will be challenging stock.
I hear that a lot but then I see people posting trail reports on the various 4x4 forums hitting the mid level difficulty trails with their Isuzu Rodeos and Nissan Exterras. I'm sure a modified Jeep will do a bit better and would be necessary on the serious rock crawling trails, but there's plenty of trails out there that don't require a purpose built buggy.
Yeah, figured I would have to lift it some to get larger tires under it to go over some of the stuff in the pics. I'm not opposed to doing that part. I was wondering if anyone had a suggestion on getting some of that done somewhere besides my garage. I have the tools for the most part, air and so on but don't have a lot of time. Winch I may have, have to check the rating on it, still in a box. Not sure if stock bumper would handle a winch though. Probably going to say no aren't ya :)
When I first got it I went searching for video's showing what a stock X could do and some of it was pretty amazing. Especially the one where it goes under water to about 6" from its top and keeps going. Some of the vids showed the guy didn't know how to get it in 4x4 though too so didn't really count those :)
I hear that a lot but then I see people posting trail reports on the various 4x4 forums hitting the mid level difficulty trails with their Isuzu Rodeos and Nissan Exterras. I'm sure a modified Jeep will do a bit better and would be necessary on the serious rock crawling trails, but there's plenty of trails out there that don't require a purpose built buggy.
10mm-man
02-06-2013, 17:24
I hear that a lot but then I see people posting trail reports on the various 4x4 forums hitting the mid level difficulty trails with their Isuzu Rodeos and Nissan Exterras. I'm sure a modified Jeep will do a bit better and would be necessary on the serious rock crawling trails, but there's plenty of trails out there that don't require a purpose built buggy.
Might want to watch my video of the Toyota winching his way up a very EASY trail..... here is a very easy trail and the rigs needed lockers. Shoot even the ones were T-Giv and Gofer hit were fairly easy, and there rigs were still built a bit.
yes there are easy trails through out Colorado and you will have fun the way it is...... Just was asking what you wanted to do? leisure drives through Colorado or some fun 4x4 trips?
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This is the one the Toyota had to winch up
10mm-man
02-06-2013, 17:34
Yeah, figured I would have to lift it some to get larger tires under it to go over some of the stuff in the pics. I'm not opposed to doing that part. I was wondering if anyone had a suggestion on getting some of that done somewhere besides my garage. I have the tools for the most part, air and so on but don't have a lot of time. Winch I may have, have to check the rating on it, still in a box. Not sure if stock bumper would handle a winch though. Probably going to say no aren't ya :)
I would do the lift yourself, not very hard and will save you $$$.... Have a build party and invite some guys over off the forum here and join JKOwners.com. I did my lift my self and it's not to hard...
Yeah a Toyota had to winch up maybe but I have a Jeep! :-P
Jeep probably has more weight in the back (oh wait, I can touch the back from the front if I lay down).
I had gone tire shopping and found some kevlar ones that a couple of the tire guys had on their Jeeps and swore by them. Said they would do everything but ice and nothing really helped on just plain ice but studs or chains.
10mm-man
02-06-2013, 17:38
Here's a pic of my recent Jeep purchase. 2007 X w/Softtop. Hoping to get some trails in soon.
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That will be fun to get on the trail with!! Nice bike too!
10mm-man
02-06-2013, 17:42
Yeah a Toyota had to winch up maybe but I have a Jeep! :-P
Jeep probably has more weight in the back (oh wait, I can touch the back from the front if I lay down).
I had gone tire shopping and found some kevlar ones that a couple of the tire guys had on their Jeeps and swore by them. Said they would do everything but ice and nothing really helped on just plain ice but studs or chains.
Kevlar MTR's? There not bad on the ice either, IT"S ICE..... We did a frozen stream crossing and they did surprisingly well! Yes, your jeep is capable but you will find yourself venturing into harder and harder stuff, wanting to go on the "FUN" trails and you will eventually need the stuff i listed. So i say why procrastinate and "Just do it"! I grew up in Crawlorado and have been stuck many a time, needed a winch many a time. I am to old for that now so i go prepared for all Crawlorado has to offer...
Not counting the beer runs how long do you figure it would take to put a moderate lift on a 2007 X using air tools and a floor jack? I thought I was reading a moderate one is 3 1/2? Mines a TJ, not a JK. I originally got it so I didn't have to take my new mustang and park it at the grocery store for all those old ladys to ding up. But now that I have it I see a lot more potential than parking lots.
I would do the lift yourself, not very hard and will save you $$$.... Have a built party and invite some guys over off the forum here and join JKOwners.com. I did my lift my self and it's not to hard...
Ha, you're too old for that. I was in the USAF from 73 to 77 and you list USMC 90-94 so I'm just guessing here but I'm older. Its okay though, I still work out. And my kid's 20, not 10 :)
The bike is a 2002 Fatboy. I get to ride it a lot more now. Used to have 14mi's of dirt to make it home. Now living in the Meadows. I can even make it home now if it rains while I was out.
Kevlar MTR's? There not bad on the ice either, IT"S ICE..... We did a frozen stream crossing and they did surprisingly well! Yes, your jeep is capable but you will find yourself venturing into harder and harder stuff, wanting to go on the "FUN" trails and you will eventually need the stuff i listed. So i say why procrastinate and "Just do it"! I grew up in Crawlorado and have been stuck many a time, needed a winch many a time. I am to old for that now so i go prepared for all Crawlorado has to offer...
10mm-man
02-06-2013, 17:48
Not counting the beer runs how long do you figure it would take to put a moderate lift on a 2007 X using air tools and a floor jack? I thought I was reading a moderate one is 3 1/2? Mines a TJ, not a JK. I originally got it so I didn't have to take my new mustang and park it at the grocery store for all those old ladys to ding up. But now that I have it I see a lot more potential than parking lots.
I did mine solo- 3days, no directions and about 3 hours a day... I had no clue what i was doing! You can do a simple easy spacer lift or if you want something longer term do the other. I would say if you have a couple guys about 3-4 hours.... No beer until done, or maybe just one or two.....
This is how you do it with out a winch: [Coffee]
http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq75/opie011/Random%20Wheeling%20Pics/Labor%20Day%20Camp%20trip%2008/The%20Little%20Toyota%20That%20Could/P1240295.jpg [ /QUOTE]
[QUOTE=10mm-man;919093]What kind of trails are you wanting to hit? If your looking at wanting to do the majority of the ones in Colorado you will need; lift, tires, winch, lockers, etc. Right now you can do the majority of the dirt roads, but getting off road will be challenging stock.
Almost true. In red isn't needed for about 80% of the trails in Colorado but they do help
10mm-man
02-06-2013, 23:50
[QUOTE=10mm-man;918975]This is how you do it with out a winch: [Coffee]
http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq75/opie011/Random%20Wheeling%20Pics/Labor%20Day%20Camp%20trip%2008/The%20Little%20Toyota%20That%20Could/P1240295.jpg [ /QUOTE]
Almost true. In red isn't needed for about 80% of the trails in Colorado but they do help
Correction; not needed as stated but if you wish not to power it out, break shit, twist shit up and crawl smoothly. They do help! A LOT.....
When you bringing that BEAST out? Notice the winch....... Bet she has lockers too!
P.S- i didn't quote that ugly Toy.... ha
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The TOYOTA was mine....never understood the jeep thing. Just kidding I'm not a brand whore but if you're gonna play with the big boys don't cry when you break or even dent your rig...all part of the sport.
10mm-man
02-06-2013, 23:55
http://photobucket.com/albums/qq75/opie011/Random Wheeling Pics/Labor Day Camp trip 08/The Little Toyota That Could (http://photobucket.com/albums/qq75/opie011/Random%20Wheeling%20Pics/Labor%20Day%20Camp%20trip%2008/The%20Little%20Toyota%20That%20Could)
The TOYOTA was mine....never understood the jeep thing. Just kidding I'm not a brand whore but if you're gonna play with the big boys don't cry when you break or even dent your rig...all part of the sport.
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Sorry can't figure out how to make it public on the iPad
The wife is actually hanging in the 5pt harness in this pic....I told her to hang out while I get a pic!
http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq75/opie011/Random%20Wheeling%20Pics/P8020018.jpg
P.S- i didn't quote that ugly Toy.... ha
She may have been ugly but had enough parts in it to buy a new car!
I loved the line lock and the rear driveline disconnect...front digs were fun, could spin on a dime
I want to build another but all my money goes into savings or guns now[M2]
What kind of trails are you wanting to hit? If your looking at wanting to do the majority of the ones in Colorado you will need; lift, tires, winch, lockers, etc. Right now you can do the majority of the dirt roads, but getting off road will be challenging stock.
Maybe if you are driving blind folded. I'm sure the snow complicates things.
10mm-man
02-07-2013, 09:55
Maybe if you are driving blind folded. I'm sure the snow complicates things.
Still waiting on you, to come out and show us how it's done....... Help with the blindfold please..........
You just told a guy that he could only drive on dirt roads. No one can argue that your list doesn't grant access to more difficult trails, but lockers, lift, and winch are hardly required for MOST trails in Colorado. My buddy wheeled his stock Rubicon with me all summer once and he never even got any trail damage. He very rarely had to use his lockers. It is all about picking your lines.
Are you just inviting me out so you can watch me break and stock truck and talk shit the whole time?
P.S. I think a rear locker should be the #1 mod to do on any off road vehicle. Even before a lift and bigger tires.
10mm-man
02-07-2013, 20:38
You just told a guy that he could only drive on dirt roads. No one can argue that your list doesn't grant access to more difficult trails, but lockers, lift, and winch are hardly required for MOST trails in Colorado. My buddy wheeled his stock Rubicon with me all summer once and he never even got any trail damage. He very rarely had to use his lockers. It is all about picking your lines.
Are you just inviting me out so you can watch me break and stock truck and talk shit the whole time?
P.S. I think a rear locker should be the #1 mod to do on any off road vehicle. Even before a lift and bigger tires.
I won't talk shit, I'll just say; told you so once or twice and we will have fun! I don't want to give the wrong impression, there are many trails a stock jeep can go. I think I said this and I said; it will be "challenging", say it won't. I have had stock everything and had a blast, breaking shit, digging it out, etc. You know as well as I do, all those items make it "easy" and more enjoyable...... I don't think I painted the picture that they are a must or a requirement. You will just be limited to were you can and can't go, how easy it is and how much work you want to put into going there.
So I see you commenting all the time but have yet to wheel with ya.... Let's all get together and go wheel it up! It'll be fun... I know T-Giv and USAGofermike is down...
O and I agree on the rear locker over other stuff 1st. And a stock Rubi is way more capable than the majority of the stuff out there. I almost wish i wouldn't have lifted mine and just left it stock!
10mm-man
02-07-2013, 20:42
She may have been ugly but had enough parts in it to buy a new car!
Dude! I think she is B.A.!! Was thinking how much I would like to have a rig like that...... Pure trail machine no doubt!
I want to go with you guys, but you usually go during the week and on short notice. I've been watching this thread so I can take a day off and go. At the same time, I'm not going to show up to a place I know I can't do, and ruin the day for everyone. I don't even have winch points on my low truck.
The most difficult (in my opinion, and in my knowledge) trails the stock Rubicon did was Spring Creek and Left Hand Canyon. I wouldn't take my stock truck up Spring Creek without getting sliders at least.
I want Spring Creek to be our next run.
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Looks like my Jeeps older brother!
I never took my Tacoma up the first obstacle at Spring Creek, but a buddy with a near identical set-up (and more experience) did. He also had sliders and a tougher rear bumper.
Look at this video I just got emailed to me tonight. I think this guy is a clown.
http://www.youtube.com/embed/GzXVLbs41Ew
That things is nuts. By the way thanks 10mm for uploading that vid of me. My exhaust sounds nice indeed. [Beer]
blacklabel
02-07-2013, 22:58
Look at this video I just got emailed to me tonight. I think this guy is a clown.
http://www.youtube.com/embed/GzXVLbs41Ew
The buggy is badass but tearing shit up for the sake of tearing shit up is rather douchey.
I wonder if it has a low gear? Seems like half that stuff 10mm-man could do just by taking it easy. That dude was just launching all over the place. He didn't even make it up some of the stuff because he wasn't in control at all. Seemed like he was getting used to the 4 wheel steering as well.
USAFGopherMike
02-07-2013, 23:33
The buggy is badass but tearing shit up for the sake of tearing shit up is rather douchey.
^ This. Cool build. Douche-hole driver. Reminds me of that Icelandic buggy rail dragster stuff.
No doubt, the newer (read last 10 years) Jeeps/Rubis are very well built and far more capable than previous models out of the box, and a rear locker is easily the best bang for the buck when it cames to increasing your trail options. After that, it's taller tires which necessitate the lift. Winch is not needed, but nice. Decent winch points are more important. Above all else, a decent driver with a can do attitude who chooses decent lines and has a couple of friends to wheel with is your #1 asset.
Edit - Spring Creek looks cool. I'm airing down a bit next time.
I've decided I can at least spend the money to install an Aussie Locker in the rear of my truck.
USAFGopherMike
02-07-2013, 23:53
I've decided I can at least spend the money to install an Aussie Locker in the rear of my truck.
/clap! when we going wheeling?
We'll see what this spring/summer brings. I've got some other stuff I need to fix (maintenance) on the truck first.
USAFGopherMike
02-07-2013, 23:57
We'll see what this spring/summer brings. I've got some other stuff I need to fix (maintenance) on the truck first.
Me too.. but still want to hit a few trails this month and next.
10mm-man
02-08-2013, 00:28
I never took my Tacoma up the first obstacle at Spring Creek, but a buddy with a near identical set-up (and more experience) did. He also had sliders and a tougher rear bumper.
Look at this video I just got emailed to me tonight. I think this guy is a clown.
http://www.youtube.com/embed/GzXVLbs41Ew
Yes, but it is a bad ass rig!
10mm-man
02-08-2013, 00:32
Let's do it in a run in a few weeks! I am going to get a truss welded to my front end in a couple weeks. T-Giv how are the brake lines coming?
USAFGopherMike
02-08-2013, 01:34
Let's do it in a run in a few weeks! I am going to get a truss welded to my front end in a couple weeks. T-Giv how are the brake lines coming?
That's a good idea. Should probably look into it as well, might help me put off the D60 upgrade a little longer.
I'm still shopping around for my lines. Alamo has been costing mucho $$$ lately as has the wifey. I need to pull some OT shifts to get things back in the green before I get back to the Jeep stuff. My birthday is coming up in a few weeks though and looks like I'm getting the Aussie lunchbox front locker. Anyone have any install experience with those? Looks relatively basic but could also turn into a nightmare. With the brake lines, finally airing down now that I have my tank, and getting the front locked up I will be ready to get seriously down n' dirty!
That buggy tearing $hit up is how dem good 'ol boys do back east. I'm not one to cheer on people fuking the land up but that vid compilation I'm sure was done at many off road parks they have(private land)
T-giv, are you at all worried about having an Aussie locker on your front in off-camber, slippery situations? Refer to the buggy video again for examples.
I'm not. I have read a bunch of reviews on it and talked to a few guys that run it. They said that theirs has held up and worked well even in heavy articulation and very slippery stuff. Considering it's only $300 I'm definitely going to at least give it a shot.
I'm not asking if you are worried about it not working, I'm asking if you are concerned about not being able to turn it off. Have you ever been locked and spinning on an off camber road or trail? Without one wheel to anchor you, the locked axle will simply slide down the hill. I almost put my truck into one of the ponds behind Water World once, and that was just with an LSD in the rear and a muddy dirt road that was only slightly off camber. If it weren't for the front axle anchoring me, I would have ended up in the pond. Is your rear locker selectable?
EDIT: Let me clarify. I would actually be less worried about having a locked front on a capable trail rig, that is on a trail; and more so on driving in slick conditions on the roads. A lunchbox or LSD on the rear only is pretty manageable on the streets in the snow, but I'd be VERY hesitant to drive with the front locked in the snow, if the rear was also locked. I just recently did a TON of reading on this because Aussie makes a front locker for IFS set-ups as well. There is a guy over in Grand Junction with an Aussie on both axles, he says he does not drive his truck in slick conditions on the roads.
On the other hand, here is a video of an XJ with an Aussie on the front and LSD in the rear to encourage you. ;)
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Ah I see what you are saying now. Yes I have also been concerned about being locked all the time in the snow on street. The Aussie however unlocks when the wheels are turned either direction and it is unlocked all of the time when the rig is in 2 wheel drive. So from those whom I have talked to said that in the snow it takes a little getting used to but that once you know how it reacts it's a non issue. I guess I won't know until I try it?
Well, I ran into two thoughts that I agreed with.
1) If you have manual hubs and you NEED an anchor, you could just get out and unlock one hub and have 3-wheel drive.
2) If you are able to drive more than 20-30 mph in slick conditions, then you likely won't need to be in 4-drive anyway.
I've driven a front wheel drive car with a front LSD and it was WAY better in the snow than non-LSD. I can only imagine if I had had actual snow tires. When on an off-camber street, if I goosed it enough to break the front tires loose, it would always predictably slide toward the edge of the road. That was something I was always in control of though, and it never created an issue. Not to mention I had both rear wheels to anchor me.
My Amigo has an LSD in the rear, and when driving on flat, snowy surfaces, it might as well be just be fully locked. It is easy to goose the throttle and have the back end come around on me. I had to learn to drive it a little bit because of that. Making turns onto a street under any decent amount of acceleration is asking for trouble, but again, that is something very controllable and you quickly learn not to drive like a moron.
I think the new Ford F-150 Raptor comes with a selectable rear locker and a front LSD. That's pretty cool, but I bet it will get people into trouble driving around in snow storms in 4-wheel drive.
The Aussie however unlocks when the wheels are turned either direction and it is unlocked all of the time when the rig is in 2 wheel drive. As for this, from what I read, it sounds like it unlocks when you take your foot off the gas. So as long as you are not powering through turns, it shouldn't be too big of a deal.
Found a lot of limits to my ride today. Mostly having to do with not having a lift and a locker. :p
I got high centered going down a hill. I called my buddy who lives near by and he came over and hopped on the bumper a few times and shook me loose. That was right about the time the police showed up. The officer was pretty cool about it and didn't give me a hard time.
10mm-man
02-09-2013, 20:46
Found a lot of limits to my ride today. Mostly having to do with not having a lift and a locker. :p
I got high centered going down a hill. I called my buddy who lives near by and he came over and hopped on the bumper a few times and shook me loose. That was right about the time the police showed up. The officer was pretty cool about it and didn't give me a hard time.
Winch would have prob got you out and then you wouldn't have to bug your buddy! lol I once got stuck the same way, passenger on the bumper jumping up and down a few times, did the trick! Were were you at that the police showed up?
104th and Washington in Thornton. Look it up on Google maps and look behind the King Soopers. A winch wouldn't have helped me unless I had a stake to drive into the ground. The police politely informed me that there is no where legal to 4-wheel in Thornton, lol.
I'm not asking if you are worried about it not working, I'm asking if you are concerned about not being able to turn it off. Have you ever been locked and spinning on an off camber road or trail? Without one wheel to anchor you, the locked axle will simply slide down the hill. I almost put my truck into one of the ponds behind Water World once, and that was just with an LSD in the rear and a muddy dirt road that was only slightly off camber. If it weren't for the front axle anchoring me, I would have ended up in the pond. Is your rear locker selectable?
EDIT: Let me clarify. I would actually be less worried about having a locked front on a capable trail rig, that is on a trail; and more so on driving in slick conditions on the roads. A lunchbox or LSD on the rear only is pretty manageable on the streets in the snow, but I'd be VERY hesitant to drive with the front locked in the snow, if the rear was also locked. I just recently did a TON of reading on this because Aussie makes a front locker for IFS set-ups as well. There is a guy over in Grand Junction with an Aussie on both axles, he says he does not drive his truck in slick conditions on the roads.
On the other hand, here is a video of an XJ with an Aussie on the front and LSD in the rear to encourage you. ;)
I run a Lock Right in the rear and open front. That covers most of the hard trails in CO and UT. The extreme trails are a different story. Double Whammy, on Golden Spike, is a good example of when this set-up is less than optimal.
If you are looking for an on/off front locking device, I'd lean toward something like an ARB air locker in the front. For on road use, I wouldn't bother with a front locker. Do you really drive more than 20-30mph in 4wd?
Given a choice, I'd rather have two front tires looking for traction then one unlocked hub (never gone that route). Never been anywhere that I couldn't get through either.
Realistically, how off camber do you plan to be? I've run a lot of trails in CO/UT and can't remember anything too steep. There was one section on Hell's Revenge that tilted the driver over an 80'+ drop off that had me, the driver, leaning right. Traction was not a problem, but I could have pooped diamonds.
Guess the question is "what do you want to run?".
I've been following this thread and would like to meet some members and get out on the trail. I have a 2000 XJ on 35s. 21409
USAFGopherMike
02-12-2013, 19:36
I've been following this thread and would like to meet some members and get out on the trail. I have a 2000 XJ on 35s. 21409
Cool. You'll have to meet up with 10mm-man, T-Giv and I. We're all within about 70 minutes of each other.
Cool. You'll have to meet up with 10mm-man, T-Giv and I. We're all within about 70 minutes of each other.
Sounds good. I'm in Conifer and have some flexibility with my schedule through the week. I've done a bunch of changes to my rig the last six months and need a good basic shakedown run. Slaughterhouse?
USAFGopherMike
02-13-2013, 16:51
I've never been. I need to upgrade my cooling fan. The current one is dying and doesn't get it done.
I've never been. I need to upgrade my cooling fan. The current one is dying and doesn't get it done.
I also haven't been but keeping meaning to go over there. That's Park County right? I am just trying to get the brake lines settled but I'm still down for a run. 10mm and I were discussing next week?
USAFGopherMike
02-14-2013, 05:04
Which day?
10mm-man
02-14-2013, 10:24
Which day?
What day works for you?
What day works for you?
Yup what day is gonna work for you? I went out today and played in the snow. Had a blast!
10mm-man
02-14-2013, 18:44
Yup what day is gonna work for you? I went out today and played in the snow. Had a blast!
Were did you go? What r u doing tomorrow? We should go do the one we went on and had to stop. I want to see if I can make it up the hill that stopped us.
10mm-man
02-14-2013, 18:45
Sounds good. I'm in Conifer and have some flexibility with my schedule through the week. I've done a bunch of changes to my rig the last six months and need a good basic shakedown run. Slaughterhouse?
Ready when u r....
USAFGopherMike
02-15-2013, 06:05
Tues maybe? I had to work on V-day (can you guess where I am right now?) so we're spending Sat together, probably going to the range. If that changes, I'll let you know.
10mm-man
02-15-2013, 09:59
(can you guess where I am right now?)
In an underground bunker flying an ICBM sim?
USAFGopherMike
02-16-2013, 05:24
In an underground bunker flying an ICBM sim?
Nah, that was real deal, no sim. I'm debating trying to relocate my radiator and wire up a crude fan relay/switch before Tuesday.
Where are you dudes running on Tuesday? USAF I need your number too so we can coordinate better. PM it to me if ya don't mind.
10mm-man
02-16-2013, 20:06
Where are you dudes running on Tuesday? USAF I need your number too so we can coordinate better. PM it to me if ya don't mind.
Someone said Slaughter house, i thought..........
I went into 4 wheel parts today (64th and Federal) and asked about their brake line kits. They have a brake line kit for $80 and they said they will install it for $100. I will likely be doing this for my Birthday this week or next. Did you guys get out today and wheel? I'm down for something tomorrow or if you guys just want to meet up and grab some grub or something?
10mm-man
02-20-2013, 20:48
I went into 4 wheel parts today (64th and Federal) and asked about their brake line kits. They have a brake line kit for $80 and they said they will install it for $100. I will likely be doing this for my Birthday this week or next. Did you guys get out today and wheel? I'm down for something tomorrow or if you guys just want to meet up and grab some grub or something?
Next time send me a text..... Seen this thread falling down a few on the page so stopped watching for a bit...
I'm getting my brake lines wrapped up next Wednesday when the parts come in so I will be good to go for a Thursday run. Who is down for something?
n8tive97
02-21-2013, 17:56
Damn, after going through all 17 pages today, I am wanting another jeep bad! Great times growing up on the trails down around Ouray and Silverton. Spent 2 weeks down there every summer growing up.
10mm-man
02-21-2013, 19:48
Damn, after going through all 17 pages today, I am wanting another jeep bad! Great times growing up on the trails down around Ouray and Silverton. Spent 2 weeks down there every summer growing up.
17 pages????? You have 50more to go- report back when your done. Then we can talk to you!! [ROFL2][ROFL2]
USAFGopherMike
02-23-2013, 04:52
17 pages????? You have 50more to go- report back when your done. Then we can talk to you!! [ROFL2][ROFL2]
LMAO... there's a lot of correspondence in there too, like "hey, lets go" and "where and when" type posts. Yes, definitely get another jeep and maybe we could be pals.
I have to work all weekend. Still acquiring the requireds for the fan/rad mod. Sometimes life gets in the way.
The wife and I are looking to get a wrangler unlimited. I saw one that is brand new all tricked out with nothing more I would really want to add. My question is do I buy that or get a year or so older and add all the thing myself??? I want to know if it will be cheaper just to buy fixed up or do it myself. Thanks for your input!
blacklabel
02-23-2013, 08:30
17 pages????? You have 50more to go- report back when your done. Then we can talk to you!! [ROFL2][ROFL2]
You're not looking at 10 posts per page are you?
The wife and I are looking to get a wrangler unlimited. I saw one that is brand new all tricked out with nothing more I would really want to add. My question is do I buy that or get a year or so older and add all the thing myself??? I want to know if it will be cheaper just to buy fixed up or do it myself. Thanks for your input!
Depends entirely on your budget. If you can afford to get an older rig that's stock and build it up as you like then go that route. If you would rather just lump everything together with the loan from a dealership that is an option as well. I opted for the cheapest rig out of the box that was brand new. I paid my rig off in a matter of a few months after buying it and then have been building up as I go. That way I can build it out how I want to and when it comes time for me to do axle swaps I will be going Dana 60's minimum so it didn't make sense for me to pay the added cost of a Rubicon when I was going to build above those specs down the road anyway.
Thanks T-Giv!! It will be driven mainly by my wife, so I don't think we will ever do any serious off roading where we would want to change out the axle or anything like that. If we ever get into it more than I will just build one up. We have decided to just go with the one all built up as long as we can get it for the right price and 0% financing. Thanks for the input any more is welcomed.
10mm-man
02-23-2013, 18:41
The wife and I are looking to get a wrangler unlimited. I saw one that is brand new all tricked out with nothing more I would really want to add. My question is do I buy that or get a year or so older and add all the thing myself??? I want to know if it will be cheaper just to buy fixed up or do it myself. Thanks for your input!
I think no matter which ever way you go, you should do as much yourself as possible! Financing the rig already done will cost you a lot....... I bought my Rubicon brand new stock; they were asking close to $50k done and set up ready to roll. I am way under that, did the lift, tires, rims my self. I found the rims on line at Amazon, and tires at another online store, I get free shipping and no tax, so the local shop (discount Tires) said they would match it.
I don't think I will ever do Dana 60's so the 44's are ok with me. The front needs to be beefed up with a truss, I was told the backs on the 44 is fine; so figure getting a truss welded on it. (if you plan to wheel) You will with out a doubt need it on the Dana 30, ask T-giv....
I had bought a 2010 Wrangler X prior to my 2013 Rubicon, by the time you figure in; axles, lockers, more power (LS, hemi swap or supper charger) you come out ahead buying a newer one. You will definitely need more power with 35" tires or bigger, if you want to go faster than 65 on the highway with out it being a dog. The 2013 as you prob know has more power and torque. I can say my 13' runs better lifted and 35" tires than my 10' did stock! So if you plan to buy a used one make sure and figure the added cost of everything you are going to need to make sure it isn't a dog; gear swap, more power, axles, lockers, etc.
it all comes down to how much $$$, time you want to spend and what you want to use it for. I like my Rubi, drive it everyday now and wouldn't think of going any other way but that's IMO....... Can't wait to see what you decide, you'll enjoy it either way!
Thanks 10mm, I think in the end your right which ever way we go the wife should be happy and even stock we should still be able to take it to the mt for snowboarding and camping. Good to know that older models with 35 would need a Hp boost something to keep in mind. I think we are going to go with the new on just need to see how it drives and crunch the numbers in our favor....
USAFGopherMike
02-24-2013, 01:31
Do your homework first Lex and I recommend going on a trail ride with someone. If you're buying a jeep just for the wifey to drive on the street, you're better off getting something that suits your needs. You'll spend less money that way and have more fun. Just my .02. I've had several jeeps and they're all money pits in the end. Eventually you either get sick of them on the road or sink a bunch of money in em, wheel em til you break something, spend more money to build it back up, then break something else. It's a toy... really. The new jeeps, aka, the pretty SUVs like 10mm-man has are really nice and for enough coin you can have the best of both worlds. Mine is not comfortable, it's not pretty, but it wheels, and it's my 3rd vehicle so if I break it, I'm not hurting to get it back on the road/trail. I hope that helps.
10mm-man
02-24-2013, 14:02
^^^ homework 1st- i spent about 3 month researching what i wanted.Ii knew I wanted the Rubicon before and got talked into the Sport- don't compromise once you know what you want!
The Rubicons come with Dana 44 on both axles from factory, in addition to an LSD in the rear, right?
The Rubicons come with Dana 44 on both axles from factory, in addition to an LSD in the rear, right?
In addition to e-lockers front and rear.
10mm-man
02-24-2013, 14:16
Anyone else like to just go drive and play in the snow on days like this? Love going around and pulling people out also- Wish it was deeper!
10mm-man
02-24-2013, 14:18
The Rubicons come with Dana 44 on both axles from factory, in addition to an LSD in the rear, right?
some come with the LSD, i think! I haven't been able to verify the LSD, but heard some do. Might come standard but not 100% sure- Ill check my build tag and see...
USAFGopherMike
02-24-2013, 18:05
Anyone else like to just go drive and play in the snow on days like this? Love going around and pulling people out also- Wish it was deeper!
I wish. I'm stuck in the field. Only ones playing in the snow are my cops topside.
Anyone else like to just go drive and play in the snow on days like this? Love going around and pulling people out also- Wish it was deeper!
I love playing in the snow both away from work and at work. Great fun!
10mm-man
02-25-2013, 22:14
My next mod; i love these fenders and they should look BA on lil Ms. Rubi.........
USAFGopherMike
02-25-2013, 22:20
They're cool.. but not my thing.
I got my brake lines done today. Came out sweet! Looking forward to finally getting some articulation without that pesky front sway bar!
10mm-man
02-27-2013, 16:42
I got my brake lines done today. Came out sweet! Looking forward to finally getting some articulation without that pesky front sway bar!
Saweet! Now you don't have any sway bars, right?
Saweet! Now you don't have any sway bars, right?
No I still run the front one on the street. It has quick disconnects for wheeling but I always had to leave it connected because the brake lines would tear if the front had too much flex. That's why I always had a wheel off of the ground (or two!).
10mm-man
02-27-2013, 17:26
That's why I always had a wheel off of the ground (or two!).
I thought you just liked doing wheelies towards the spotter!!
10mm-man
02-27-2013, 17:38
edit - wrong forum
Don't let it happen again! JEEPERS ONLY......... Read the sign!
[ROFL2][ROFL3][Beer]
Where are the dudes at? Who is in for a fun run on Wednesday??
Well my plans of buying a jeep got crushed this weekend! I found out I have way to much negative equity in the trade in and I don't want 2 car payments. Looks like I will just have to wait or have 5 kids quit my job and get welfare!!! Sorry, still bitter....
Any of you guys have exp with the heater? my 06 tj doesn't seem to work on 1 or 2 anymore, but 3 and 4 blow good it's just too much. It use to be 2 was plenty and after a while I had to turn it down to 1. I heard something about a blower motor resistor behind the glove box but also heard it was a PITA.
Anyone want to go out and play in the mud? LOL!22847
blacklabel
03-03-2013, 16:00
Anyone want to go out and play in the mud? LOL!22847
Is that on Poll Hill Road? I'm pretty sure I went into that a little too fast last summer.
I got my brake lines done today. Came out sweet! Looking forward to finally getting some articulation without that pesky front sway bar!
Still go slow when you get out there and flex and test it out even with those new brake lines. I put the 22" JKS lines on my XJ and thoguht I was GTG. I still almost ripped them out the first time I flexed it. I ended up relocating the brake line bracket down and getting another 2" out of them, but ultimately had to run a limiting strap to limit down travel.
10mm-man
03-04-2013, 19:29
Diesel??
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2013/02/jeep-wrangler-diesel-likely-after-refresh-in-2015.html
Not only would the Wrangler take the diesel, but with a 420 lb-ft of torque rating in the Grand Cherokee with the same engine, it seems like a no-brainer that one of the most off-road oriented cars on the market would make use of that low-end power.
Is that on Poll Hill Road? I'm pretty sure I went into that a little too fast last summer.
I don't know about Poll Hill Road but I ran across that at the entrance to Pickle Gultch last Summer.
blacklabel
03-04-2013, 19:37
I don't know about Poll Hill Road but I ran across that at the entrance to Pickle Gultch last Summer.
Pole (not poll, sorry) is outside of Estes. Pretty decent trail.
That would be sweet! I can't believe it's already time for another Wrangler make over. The TJ still seems new to me...
Diesel??
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2013/02/jeep-wrangler-diesel-likely-after-refresh-in-2015.html
Not only would the Wrangler take the diesel, but with a 420 lb-ft of torque rating in the Grand Cherokee with the same engine, it seems like a no-brainer that one of the most off-road oriented cars on the market would make use of that low-end power.
USAFGopherMike
03-05-2013, 21:38
I've been out of town and busy as hell, now sick too. I'll be up for a possible run this weekend.
In addition to e-lockers front and rear.
Exactly. I've got a Dana 44 axle (although with a larger ring gear supposedly) and wonder if it would be possible to pick up a used rear third member from a Rubicon and just swap mine out. I think for air locker prices, a Rubicon e-locker would be even better. I have no idea how much they go for used though. What do you guys think?
Exactly. I've got a Dana 44 axle (although with a larger ring gear supposedly) and wonder if it would be possible to pick up a used rear third member from a Rubicon and just swap mine out. I think for air locker prices, a Rubicon e-locker would be even better. I have no idea how much they go for used though. What do you guys think?
http://denver.craigslist.org/pts/3570033680.html
To the JK dudes....I was driving my rig today and all of the sudden shit went sideways on me. I had a red lightning bolt on the dash and the engine cut out, sputtered, and was running really rough. I pulled over and restarted it and it didn't do it again. I read some basics online and it looks like it's something surrounding the throttle position computer module. I hate all of these damn computers these days. A bunch of unnecessary nannys. Anyone else ever have that happen? I'm at 13k miles on mine so I will be trying to get over to the stealership so they can have a look at it.
10mm-man
03-05-2013, 22:36
http://denver.craigslist.org/pts/3570033680.html
To the JK dudes....I was driving my rig today and all of the sudden shit went sideways on me. I had a red lightning bolt on the dash and the engine cut out, sputtered, and was running really rough. I pulled over and restarted it and it didn't do it again. I read some basics online and it looks like it's something surrounding the throttle position computer module. I hate all of these damn computers these days. A bunch of unnecessary nannys. Anyone else ever have that happen? I'm at 13k miles on mine so I will be trying to get over to the stealership so they can have a look at it.
Ok, so wait- when you say it went sideways you mean literally? Like the brakes locked up or something? or it went into limp mode while you were 4wheeling? I been out a few times and been four wheeling then get on highway and it has no get up and go. Turn it off and then fire it up and I am cruising like nothing happened. Figured I threw off some sensors or something and it might have thought it was in an accident or something.
Wow that was fast, thanks. Time to research to see if I can do a swap like I was thinking.
Sideways as in it went bad not literally sideways. My bad on not being clear. No wheeling I was just driving down Sheridan Blvd. Just coasting actually down a bit of a hill. It was rather strange.
10mm-man
03-06-2013, 10:51
Sideways as in it went bad not literally sideways. My bad on not being clear. No wheeling I was just driving down Sheridan Blvd. Just coasting actually down a bit of a hill. It was rather strange.
No clue my man! Let us know what the stealership says....
I went in to the dealership today and they were able to pull the code within a few hours. Said it was a stuck open PCV valve Causing the ECU to shut the motor down. They replaced it under warranty and I'm back at it.
10mm-man
03-06-2013, 20:35
I went in to the dealership today and they were able to pull the code within a few hours. Said it was a stuck open PCV valve Causing the ECU to shut the motor down. They replaced it under warranty and I'm back at it.
Good to know!
Joined the club!!! Dealership worked with me and got a cheaper rubicon with a less options and was able to come down in price. Will post pics tomorrow!!
My wife's new rubicon!
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i338/lexkeys137/image_zps55ed124f.jpg
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Can't wait to go up on an outing with you guys! I will have to take it easy since were new at this whole thing....
You and 10mm got the black Rubis looking saweet.
Now I just need to learn how to drive it!!!!
When any of you guys want to part with your 2013 Rubin rims let me know.
10mm-man
03-12-2013, 23:01
My wife's new rubicon!
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i338/lexkeys137/image_zps55ed124f.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i338/lexkeys137/image_zpsd5326aac.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i338/lexkeys137/image_zps1c836327.jpg
Can't wait to go up on an outing with you guys! I will have to take it easy since were new at this whole thing....
That is the SWEETEST ride i EVER SEEN!!
10mm-man
03-12-2013, 23:03
Now I just need to learn how to drive it!!!!
Search this thread for the AWESOME looking lifted black 2013 Rubi doing her thing..... It's a "how to" video!! [Coffee][ROFL2]
Just had to add some- TWINS:
Me and 10mm are setting up a run for tomorrow if anyone would like to join! Probably looking at something close by and lower in elevation so most of the snow will hopefully have melted off. Open to suggestions!
I would be down to go with you guys, but I work during the week and working this sat too. Thanks 10MM the wife loves it!
Damn i sell my jeep and all of a sudden im the black sheep, tgiv dont even text just to say hi. I thought we were bro's lol.
10mm-man
03-14-2013, 09:36
Damn i sell my jeep and all of a sudden im the black sheep, tgiv dont even text just to say hi. I thought we were bro's lol.
Who are you? What are you doing in the Jeepers thread? [ROFL2][Beer]
Seee. Im already forgotten. Stupid jeeps, im gonna buy a toyota now lol.
Change of plans. We are pushing the run back to Sunday. We will be running one of the trails near Fairplay that we ran last time. We will also be looking for a spot to do some shooting too! Who is down for Sunday???
And I say we do Slaughterhouse since the snow should be mostly melted from there!
What time Sunday are you guys thinking of going?
Whenver. My wife and I will be coming back from Silverthorne so maybe meet at the trail around 11:00?
Won't be able to make it have to make up a class this Sunday and won't be done till around 12 or 1.
We can go whenever as long as 10mm and whoever else comes is good with it. We could do like 2 at the trail?
10mm-man
03-14-2013, 18:50
Won't be able to make it have to make up a class this Sunday and won't be done till around 12 or 1.
Figure out what you can and then commit. We will be waiting to hear from you..........
10mm-man
03-14-2013, 18:52
Seee. Im already forgotten. Stupid jeeps, im gonna buy a toyota now lol.
That is crazy talk! Almost like saying your gonna go join the Dems...............
Can't make this Sunday run, please keep me in the loop!
We need to coordinate a better way to post up runs and get RSVPs lined up. Anyone have any good ideas?
On a side note I was messing around with my brake lines today just to see how they work with a little bit of flex. Looks like they will be enough. Disconnecting the rear sway bar has made a huge impact on rear articulation. Even with the front connected the rear flexed great.
http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt159/Givnasty/9EF88114-D850-41A0-AB97-FE88D0BCDF4E-22778-000005F648589A5E_zps3e61a732.jpg
http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt159/Givnasty/91BD0947-A248-4E23-8BA4-8E16208C8F42-22778-000005F64CB55499_zps7d0fc718.jpg
http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt159/Givnasty/7D54D837-F09A-4E23-A5CD-367D0E8B05EB-22778-000005F64AD3A0F9_zpsf56770af.jpg
Are you guys still going on Sunday?
Are you guys still going on Sunday?
I am and I would imagine 10mm is. You down?
Yeah, I think I can swing it. Are you going back to 11:00 am since lex can't make it?
We are doing whatever. I'm free all day and I didn't end up going to the mountains so I can meet wherever/whenever. Me and Alamo will be ready! 10mm what you thinking?
10mm-man
03-16-2013, 16:05
We are doing whatever. I'm free all day and I didn't end up going to the mountains so I can meet wherever/whenever. Me and Alamo will be ready! 10mm what you thinking?
Mount up boys!! Were ready, whatever time..... Irving, glad your going, will be good to meet ya! SLAUGHTER HOUSE?
Mount up boys!! Were ready, whatever time..... Irving, glad your going, will be good to meet ya! SLAUGHTER HOUSE?
Well then let's meet at that gas station at Morrison and 470 at 10:00 and then we will bounce up from there! Does that work for you Irving? It will also be good to meet you. Any other last minute takers for a weekend run?
10mm-man
03-16-2013, 17:37
Well then let's meet at that gas station at Morrison and 470 at 10:00 and then we will bounce up from there! Does that work for you Irving? It will also be good to meet you. Any other last minute takers for a weekend run?
Irving?
Sorry, I'm here. I'm down for 10:00 am at the gas station! Let's roll.
Good time today guys. Thanks for having me. Everyone make it home okay?
I made it home safely. My wife got a few good vids today that I am uploading now. Here is one!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6NPJZ2kcwM&list=UUpCfPCJYMehIG85UQFkbpqw&index=1
Glad you came along and it was good to meet. Would gladly hit another trail with you.
I took some photos and some video, but nothing worth posting up as I was driving at the same time in all of them. I was stopped on the side of the road taking a picture of a coyote on the way back, by the way. Either of you guys have plans to put a CB in your rigs?
10mm-man
03-17-2013, 20:53
I took some photos and some video, but nothing worth posting up as I was driving at the same time in all of them. I was stopped on the side of the road taking a picture of a coyote on the way back, by the way. Either of you guys have plans to put a CB in your rigs?
You good meeting up with your guys today! I have a brand new CB sitting in my closet....
USAFGopherMike
03-18-2013, 20:21
Any other pics or vids? Sorry I missed it. I had to work.
I have been working on some trails for upcoming trail rides with you dudes. Has anyone in here run carnage canyon? I've never been up there but HOLY BALLS does it look tough. I know 10mm has been bored with Slaughterhouse and Left Hand Canyon and this just may get him engaged!
Carnage Canyon is where buggies play. From couple hundred yards I've seen, I think you guys would probably do just fine, but you'd for sure be stopping and spotting for each other.
10mm-man
03-28-2013, 08:08
Carnage Canyon is where buggies play. From couple hundred yards I've seen, I think you guys would probably do just fine, but you'd for sure be stopping and spotting for each other.
I heard the majority of it is ok, it's the last hundred yards that would get ya! But I also heard there is a by-pass for that part...........
T-giv and 10mm you guys have very capable rigs and could run Carnage (BV) I think no problem just expect some body damage....but hey that's just character [Beer]
Or you guys could play in the Penrose trail system like Indy or Liberty!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fUkJUBotx8
Pretty sick!
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p97/Cummins600/DSCN5317-1_zpscbe67806.jpg
USAFGopherMike
03-30-2013, 18:50
Yeah... after watching this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfwall7_PJU , I'll not be running carnage any time soon. I am down for another run with you guys though. The last one was a blast. There's some trails up the poudre that might be fun. If I ever get a weekend off, I may have to host a run accompanied by an after party at the house. Lots of room for people to crash cause after wheeling, we might have to put down a few beers and tear up some BBQ. :)
Awesome video. That looked fun. What a trip they must have had. The last part of Carnage Canyon at the top (starting around 8:40 of the video), is unbelievable. We have walked down it from the top and I couldn't imagine taking a vehicle up that. My son and nephew rode their dirt bikes up from the bottom of it a hundred yards or so, and that was cool.
Just got back from Moab. I didn't even break anything this time.[DriveBy]
http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac59/Sixgunjr/086A8395-DC5E-4819-A2B9-8DE620E9389F-377-0000008BB1AA2301.jpg
http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac59/Sixgunjr/D96868A4-CF06-408F-831F-690E8C6AD390-377-0000008BA02DAB3E.jpg
http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac59/Sixgunjr/45560530-F64F-49B3-A5E4-B812EC461341-377-0000008B8D277836.jpg
USAFGopherMike
04-01-2013, 23:17
Wow.. nice pics. Were you solo?
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