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whitewalrus
07-10-2020, 17:17
Finally got around to setting up the XL750 for .45 acp...ran 100, need to make some small tweaks, but fairly happy with it. I now have toolheads setup for 4 calibers. Biggest issue I have is the priming system. The slidebar priming system still likes to start skipping primers right before the low primer alarm goes off(alarm goes off with about 4 primers left)(and yes, I have tried adding more weight to the rod). Also noticed I need to anchor my bench. If I go too fast, It will bounce primers out of the cup on the way to the shellplate which I attribute to bench movement.
Have you used a 650? I was wondering if it was even worth thinking about upgrading. Think the new priming system is a give and take, the old one with the rotary dial did a good job of getting any powder that may have spilled out of the system.
Have you used a 650? I was wondering if it was even worth thinking about upgrading. Think the new priming system is a give and take, the old one with the rotary dial did a good job of getting any powder that may have spilled out of the system.
I have not used a 650. I ordered the brass priming tube ends from Unique Tek...we'll see if that makes a difference. I love everything else about the 750, but if I can't trust priming, it may be a deal breaker.
Great-Kazoo
07-10-2020, 19:52
I have not used a 650. I ordered the brass priming tube ends from Unique Tek...we'll see if that makes a difference. I love everything else about the 750, but if I can't trust priming, it may be a deal breaker.
those ends are a copy of the original ones, used on the 450, then early &650(iirc) . Wish i knew i have 2-3 here i would have swapped for the newer ones.
Great-Kazoo
07-10-2020, 19:53
Started inventorying my 300 blk components. I'm disillusioned with the round, so it may be on the chopping block . While quiet suppressed, i can do other things, with those powders and primers.
Started inventorying my 300 blk components. I'm disillusioned with the round, so it may be on the chopping block . While quiet suppressed, i can do other things with that powder and primers.
If you're trying to get rid of brass and or projectiles let me know please.
If you're trying to get rid of brass and or projectiles let me know please.
Samsies.
jreifsch80
07-17-2020, 02:08
Developed a nice sub moa load for my hornady 68gr and sierra 77's...... i already love 8208xbr
Started tumbling some brass from one of our very generous members.
Great-Kazoo
07-17-2020, 14:16
Developed a nice sub moa load for my hornady 68gr and sierra 77's...... i already love 8208xbr
too bad it's so difficult to find in 8lb kegs, or even the 1lb canisters. I ended up going over to 4064.
whitewalrus
07-17-2020, 18:34
too bad it's so difficult to find in 8lb kegs, or even the 1lb canisters. I ended up going over to 4064.
Yeah I have been looking around for quite some time for it. Even before the rona was going on.
https://www.powdervalleyinc.com/product/imr-8208-xbr/
1# in stock
Linkless
07-18-2020, 07:58
I've seen 8208 in a store recently, problem is I don't know which one.
I just loaded 7 primer tubes as I'm prepping to load more subsonic 9mm. I have the roller handle on the press now so don't expect a blister on the palm of my hand this time.
Great-Kazoo
07-18-2020, 08:53
I've seen 8208 in a store recently, problem is I don't know which one.
I just loaded 7 primer tubes as I'm prepping to load more subsonic 9mm. I have the roller handle on the press now so don't expect a blister on the palm of my hand this time.
If you can't locate a take off throttle grip sleeve, buy one of these.
http://www.uniquetek.com/product/T1527
jreifsch80
07-18-2020, 21:41
They same places I see 8208xbr usually have 4064 varget and retumbo lol its nice going up to nebraska for work sometimes
Just worked another thousand of 9mm brass.
Not_A_Llama
07-23-2020, 18:13
Ongoing 1100 odyssey. Root cause analysis on the last 50 stoppages showed 44 (88%) of them were related to the resize/decap station. Mostly sucked-back primers. The balance were mostly weird things like the base of the primer punching out, but leaving behind a "sleeve" of primer in the primer pocket.
The Dillon sizing die got much better with some decapping pin adjustments, but I screwed up three before concluding that I couldn't figure out the secret to consistently making one that avoided suckbacks.
Briefly used a Lee that was perfect in 500 rounds for not sucking back primers, but they've changed the design recently, and it doesn't size as low on the case as the Dillon dies.
I feel a little ridiculous, but I bought a Mighty Armory 9mm sizing die and decapping set for $130.
It has significantly improved my rate of production. No primer suckbacks at all, and the sizing force is much decreased. So too is the sizing action, and I'm a little concerned about setback, but we will see.
I also have installed a Mr. Bulletfeeder. Once I perfect the adjustments, I expect it to be amazing. For now, the forecast calls for extra-heavy rain.
Did you figure out that Hornady One Shot is magic?
Not_A_Llama
07-23-2020, 20:13
I’ve used it, but find that lanolin spray or mineral spirits are better for my purposes. What do you like about it over the others?
I’ve used it, but find that lanolin spray or mineral spirits are better for my purposes. What do you like about it over the others?
No issues with primers/powder and you can leave it on. Mineral Spirits can turn into a sticky mess if you forget to clean it off. Lanolin spray like Dillon gets bad if you use too much and dont clean it off.
Not_A_Llama
07-24-2020, 12:40
Interesting. Maybe there's different grades of mineral spirits - I specifically bought this stuff because it completely evaporates off, leaving zero residue. Downside: some flammability / combustibility concerns.
Also, in testing, it doesn't inactivate primers or powder (after a wait - might or might not be needed).
I don't love the Lanolin, but for tough cases, I haven't found anything can beat it.
I'll toss the Oneshot in the rotation again to see, but the Mineral Spirits have made me very happy.
Kazoo sent me this Dillon cover for a 550B and some material. Dillon sells the covers for $25. It's about $1 in material and $2 in labor. https://www.dillonprecision.com/rl-550-series-square-deal-b-machine-cover_8_119_23518.html
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3ecfT58Xwbn4fNjUKxq5uuQfCkFaOvEo_E9L_otwsYPM7KvmG1 R586a2iSDn16Bq5aFFDVLNQjy0f9NJAZIwR-4SbMYFVAp-bU22rVerB-n2hxfiEgGI2gelY8S3E4p_VIUIDnhGvpNZbeyyKmJO17bTw=w3 52-h625-no?authuser=0
I copied it and added a pocket.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3d1BIIPp68XllgQM-18nnXLIy9LVMoyvB460jTeVpWw7SU9PYErdmhjEJwpjyRwhuiD xHf34BCGaF7aVcvQh_mkz4yWDJeg9fQdxQMvOHpXNsXM0ovwt-oVxzQdM579ElosGbXF_LzS-lylQ9ewmNF-Gw=w352-h625-no?authuser=0
Looks good. Crank out a few more of those and I bet you could sell some here...
Work's been pretty slow this year, I might have to.
Great-Kazoo
07-25-2020, 10:29
Work's been pretty slow this year, I might have to.
You know i'm good for 2.
thedave1164
07-25-2020, 11:04
I could use one :)
buffalobo
07-25-2020, 16:02
I'm in for one.
Does everyone want blue? Just basic material okay?
thedave1164
07-25-2020, 16:25
Does everyone want blue? Just basic material okay?
Blue is good, basic material is good.
I put a pocket into the front, but did it just to do it, without any thought to the design, or what you'd actually put into the pocket. If anyone has any ideas, let me know.
A simple square of cardboard does a lot to help hold shape and look nice.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3d9RUG782rIeY3dmBp4onXygYQMZeAHfoUZkvbs4wC7kXLDC-NgG5QoKLPpI43TOmISHXjispWwjwMp9obRjiiRQkMhbcPYkkSN ab5YMDDTbQSCzZ3d_4njzptE_HYDMpJ3wggkz3-iQyvU7MSQlxjkqg=w439-h625-no?authuser=0
Doesn't do much to hold the weight though.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3dgyg5YMQWJPI9U-uilFZ_Hz03QS4incMdI24-aXwpAOB-8voXCi_5wU-8dfFrZQdeHezsZmmZaMItMsjFC1A0bTqmr6jsjw4CczmvCgE_v QpsUzPoOTBOEIY2bsP3UzaquxhsFHcsdqK-lgdmoMlxP9w=w367-h625-no?authuser=0
What material is that it kind of looks like a nylon to me? Blue is good and I'm easy with a pocket or no pocket.
Btw I changed my mind I'm in for 2
Great-Kazoo
07-25-2020, 17:59
What material is that it kind of looks like a nylon to me? Blue is good and I'm easy with a pocket or no pocket.
Btw I changed my mind I'm in for 2
IIRC it's 50/50 cotton/poly. If that's the material i sent him.
You might as well ask him to make you a satchel, while he's at it. What material is it? meowwwww.
I was thinking its such a nice color that maybe I would spring for a dress for you.....[fag]
Great-Kazoo
07-25-2020, 20:39
I was thinking its such a nice color that maybe I would spring for a dress for you.....[fag]
the one i got you really worked, didn't it.
MARSHA, MARSHA, MARSHA
thedave1164
07-26-2020, 07:08
I don’t need no stinking pocket :D
Add a snap to the top edge center of that pocket.
Or maybe a few small pieces of velcro for ultimate sizing of pockets.
the one i got you really worked, didn't it.
MARSHA, MARSHA, MARSHA
Eat a snickers bar...
Great-Kazoo
07-26-2020, 23:44
Eat a snickers bar...
What do you mean ' I'm funny? Like a clown, funny.
Yup just here to amuse us....
9mm 9mm 9mm, working 9mm brass. Weighed out everything I have so far. Then cleaned up and reorganized everything.
thedave1164
07-27-2020, 06:40
prepping some .30-30 brass for reloading, discovered my RCBS shell holder will not work for my Hornady trimmer :(
TheBelly
07-27-2020, 09:09
Started putting the reloading room back together after a multi-year hiatus from shooting. I never thought the Army would get in the way of shooting, but here we are.
Started putting the reloading room back together after a multi-year hiatus from shooting. I never thought the Army would get in the way of shooting, but here we are.
Welcome back.
TheBelly
07-27-2020, 10:30
Welcome back.
THanks. I hope I’ve got time to stay into it appropriately....
Not_A_Llama
07-27-2020, 11:33
Decided to stop messing around with the SNS casting 9mm 115gr RN pills I've been enamored with, and went to the Bayou Bullets 120gr TC. 6.5 cents to 7.1 cents.
I don't understand how SNS uses the same Hi-Tek coating as everyone, at the same alloy, diameter, and hardness, but (unlike everyone else) ends up causing leading. They're also the only Hi-Tek coated manufacturer who has a big explanation on their front page about how to avoid leading. Also, their coating doesn't have the same mottled-translucent-lumpy look that others have. It looks and acts like powder coating. I don't know.
I called up Dennis at Bayou, looking for leadtimes on their 115gr bullet, and got talked into going for the 120gr offering, which he related would "smoke" the 115gr in accuracy out of my Glocks. I'm not one to get sold to, but at basically the same price, and as a trustable vendor, I went for it.
For the half cent extra, I'll go with Bayou and whatever logistical problems I can expect there. The (nice) devil I know.
Great-Kazoo
07-27-2020, 15:11
Decided to stop messing around with the SNS casting 9mm 115gr RN pills I've been enamored with, and went to the Bayou Bullets 120gr TC. 6.5 cents to 7.1 cents.
I don't understand how SNS uses the same Hi-Tek coating as everyone, at the same alloy, diameter, and hardness, but (unlike everyone else) ends up causing leading. They're also the only Hi-Tek coated manufacturer who has a big explanation on their front page about how to avoid leading. Also, their coating doesn't have the same mottled-translucent-lumpy look that others have. It looks and acts like powder coating. I don't know.
I called up Dennis at Bayou, looking for leadtimes on their 115gr bullet, and got talked into going for the 120gr offering, which he related would "smoke" the 115gr in accuracy out of my Glocks. I'm not one to get sold to, but at basically the same price, and as a trustable vendor, I went for it.
For the half cent extra, I'll go with Bayou and whatever logistical problems I can expect there. The (nice) devil I know.
I found too tight a crimp causes that issue. I've run a few dummy rounds to find that crimp. Which, like on plated, is enough to prevent the bullet from moving, yet not enough to peel the coating off the back end. . I have BB here now and was not that impressed with them. Until i spent time getting that crimp just right.
Another issue i found with the BB is , i switched to a double alpha powder funnel to get enough expansion in the case, w/out over flaring it. But that (for me) seems to be an issue with all the hytek coated stuff.
Once i received the DA funnel (in 45 acp) i turned down one of my 9mm funnels to that same profile. No issue any more.
Granted i probably over thought the entire process, opting for building a better mousetrap ;)
https://www.doublealpha.biz/us/mr-bulletfeeder-powder-funnel
Not_A_Llama
07-27-2020, 15:35
Yeah, that’s the issue: I am totally fine with Bayou and literally everybody else using Hitek. ACME, Hoosier, Missouri, Cheycast, Badman, and Bayou have had zero problems with leading in my guns and my friends’ guns. I have shot a metric fuckton of Hitek bullets. Only SNS’s lead up. Only SNS has these crazy stipulations around what powders you can use.
The learning-to-crimp thing is, to me, the very essence of good reloading practice (outside of revolver stuff). It’s not a “crimp” - it’s a debelling operation. Lead is inelastic, brass is elastic. Anyone thinking they can crimp brass into lead is chasing their tail. Likewise found great improvements in accuracy on jacketed bullets once I discovered that distinction.
From the perspective of setback reduction and neck tension preservation, I dislike the MBF funnel die, but I don’t have much choice now that I have the MBF.
Great-Kazoo
07-27-2020, 17:11
Yeah, that’s the issue: I am totally fine with Bayou and literally everybody else using Hitek. ACME, Hoosier, Missouri, Cheycast, Badman, and Bayou have had zero problems with leading in my guns and my friends’ guns. I have shot a metric fuckton of Hitek bullets. Only SNS’s lead up. Only SNS has these crazy stipulations around what powders you can use.
The learning-to-crimp thing is, to me, the very essence of good reloading practice (outside of revolver stuff). It’s not a “crimp” - it’s a debelling operation. Lead is inelastic, brass is elastic. Anyone thinking they can crimp brass into lead is chasing their tail. Likewise found great improvements in accuracy on jacketed bullets once I discovered that distinction.
From the perspective of setback reduction and neck tension preservation, I dislike the MBF funnel die, but I don’t have much choice now that I have the MBF.
I picked up a 3d printed case / bullet feeder from a guy on line. Works good, once i got the feed setting dialed in.
Loaded 225 rounds of 45 , 250 of 55gr Ballistic p-dog removers are next.
jreifsch80
07-30-2020, 02:12
Got more components more 8208xbr and orginized some bullets I got in getting ready for some 7.62x39 thumpers
Great-Kazoo
07-30-2020, 08:03
Got more components more 8208xbr and orginized some bullets I got in getting ready for some 7.62x39 thumpers
lmk how those bullets work out.
beast556
08-05-2020, 22:30
Just fully prepped 175 peices of lc 5.56 brass. Gonna load up some 52gr eld bullets with benchmark. Was getting consistent 3/4in groops the other day, I think with this brass I can tighten up the groops a little gonna use match primers this time too.
Working 45 acp brass....I only have 1 5ga bucket so I might be able to prep it all continuously unlike the 9mm. Still need to do my 223/556 as well but waiting on my crimp bits to come in.
Right now looking online for some 308 Win dies - I have a small amount of uncleaned brass that I should at least prep up. Which should be followed with some M1 Carbine hardware.
Linkless
08-06-2020, 20:11
I loaded up 700 9mm 147's last night and was going to do another batch tonight but Sprint car racing is on so it's going to have to wait.
Great-Kazoo
08-07-2020, 23:15
picked up 500 berrys hard cast 230 for a R1 enhanced i traded for. Think 5-5.2gr unique should do it.
Put away the projectiles I just recently picked up, man I hope the bottom shelf on my bench holds.
Btw am I the only one wanting the workout bad enough to store them in 50cal cans? I Had to split my 9mm into 3 cans because two was waaaay too heavy.
Next up inventory the primers and probably work some more brass.
picked up 500 berrys hard cast 230 for a R1 enhanced i traded for. Think 5-5.2gr unique should do it.
I may be way overboard. I'm using 6.8gr of uniqjy for 230gr projectiles when unload .45. loaded a few hundred yesterday actually.
Put away the projectiles I just recently picked up, man I hope the bottom shelf on my bench holds.
Btw am I the only one wanting the workout bad enough to store them in 50cal cans? I Had to split my 9mm into 3 cans because two was waaaay too heavy.
Next up inventory the primers and probably work some more brass.
Yeah....when I was moving I made the mistake of tossing all my bullets into one can. After my hernia from attempting to move it, I split it into separate boxes.
I may be way overboard. I'm using 6.8gr of uniqjy for 230gr projectiles when unload .45. loaded a few hundred yesterday actually.
Ummmm....That's a bit on the high side of the Hornady reloading manual. They have a max of 6.6gr Unique for 230gr bullet, at 900 fps.
ETA: I've never used Unique, though my experience with reloading books is they tend to be somewhat conservative. YMMV
Ummmm....That's a bit on the high side of the Hornady reloading manual. They have a max of 6.6gr Unique for 230gr bullet, at 900 fps.
ETA: I've never used Unique, though my experience with reloading books is they tend to be somewhat conservative. YMMV
https://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/powderlist.aspx?page=/reloaders/powderlist.aspx&type=1&powderid=3&cartridge=35
I think I started my load from this data that goes as high as 7.3 for a 230gn projectile. I'm going to try to bring it down a little based on these recent posts and see how they do.
Great-Kazoo
08-09-2020, 11:56
https://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/powderlist.aspx?page=/reloaders/powderlist.aspx&type=1&powderid=3&cartridge=35
I think I started my load from this data that goes as high as 7.3 for a 230gn projectile. I'm going to try to bring it down a little based on these recent posts and see how they do.
6.6? i'l check the books i have. Seems a little high. I've loaded 5.6 of unique for a bolt action project.
Grabbed a few for a 1911 pistol to see what they did. hot, with a snappy recoil is what i experienced. But i'm also shooting weak handed for another week or so.
I started the load for an AR45 that I built. It needed a hot round to cycle. I've since been backing it down for other firearms. In my 1911 using 6.8gn is a little snappy as you mentioned. Never thought about backing it below 6 until now. With the current availability of supplies I want to use as little as I can, every little bit helps these days.
Great-Kazoo
08-09-2020, 16:26
I started the load for an AR45 that I built. It needed a hot round to cycle. I've since been backing it down for other firearms. In my 1911 using 6.8gn is a little snappy as you mentioned. Never thought about backing it below 6 until now. With the current availability of supplies I want to use as little as I can, every little bit helps these days.
Now that i see it's for a 45 carbine. That makes sense. The hot loads i made are for a rhineland arms 45 acp / mauser conversion i did. They're also loaded as long as the mag allows.
5-5.2/4 grs unique with a 230 gr bullet works.
Linkless
08-09-2020, 18:54
I finally put all of my 147 CMJ's (3000) from Montana Gold into brass sitting over 3.7 grains of Bullseye. Next up is the 1000 rounds of 115 Hornady HAP once I figure out what I want to throw them together with, likely Vihtavouri of some sort since I have a good amount. Need to load up .40, 10mm and .45 at some point too.
thedave1164
08-11-2020, 19:05
Loaded up some more .30-30 with the berry's 150 plated, need to get out and shoot them now
Picked up 1K Federal SRP and 1K Berry's 115 Plated RN 9mm today
Not_A_Llama
08-12-2020, 13:15
Not strictly *in* the reloading room, but I’m at this point in my life now.
https://i.imgur.com/q8DXSL5.jpg
I've thought about doing the same thing but whats the fun in that when I had 3 tumblers to burn out first, 2 down 1 to go.
Great-Kazoo
08-12-2020, 22:39
Inventoried my 300 blk brass, as it seems to be going for a decent price.
jreifsch80
08-12-2020, 23:49
sized cleaned and primed some 7.62x39 brass also bougjt some more varget for other projects
I did a quick inventory on some of my supplies and decided that no, I did not need (or want) to buy any more 223/556 bullets. My primers are in 'ok' shape, but I could use more large rifle primers....once I get the reloading dies, and maybe some different powder, and bullets, yep those would be useful.
I am not in any rush right now for the new hardware unless I find a nice spot to plink with 308 Win.
Finally finished sorting a 5ga bucket of 556/223.
Ran two 5 gallon buckets of 40 through the roll sizer this morning for a friend. Around 11,500 cases total.
beast556
08-16-2020, 19:02
Loaded 200rds of 9mm and 100rds of match 223 trying to refine my 52gr eld benchmark load.
Delfuego
08-16-2020, 19:45
+300 Rounds of 6BR ready for the next match
Great-Kazoo
08-16-2020, 21:29
+300 Rounds of 6BR ready for the next match
Where you shooting, cowtown?
Delfuego
08-17-2020, 12:07
Where you shooting, cowtown?This is for the Farmington NRL match. I occasionally shoot CowTown, but don't care for it much. There is a National match up near you (Gunsite) in November and a monthly NRL22! We also head up outta the heat to Heber most months.
Linkless
08-17-2020, 16:46
I'll be heading to the basement shortly to throw together some 6.5x47 and possibly 6xc depending on how ambitious I get.
I was so bored I reloaded a 1000 9mm tracers for a shoot that was cancelled. But on the bright side I have nothing to do for the next one in March. 8000 tracers across 3 calibers should get me through.
Tracers?
They're like super fast lightening bugs.
Installed the sawge it and some other accessories on one of the 550's, I might swage some 223 in a few.
Great-Kazoo
08-18-2020, 23:49
Installed the sawge it and some other accessories on one of the 550's, I might swage some 223 in a few.
for the price of the swage it. You could have purchased a LEE APP deluxe press and swage dies. Which would have been more beneficial than the swageit. I have one and very happy with it.
You know i'm a dillon fan, very happy with the presses and customer service they offer. Since i no longer do the volume i use to on the 1050. For the price point, that lee was a good investment.
PLUS i don't run the chance of breaking the dillon, with a part they will not cover damage from.
I thought about it but most everything on the dillon part wise I can find on ebay or just order from dillon. The way the swage it system is set up I really don't view it as a risk of breaking anything on the 550 anyway. Plus I really don't have the space on the bench to mount another press to it so I would have to throw another $75 on an inline fab strong mount just so I can have an even more cramped bench. So using the second 550 I have made more sense for me.
Great-Kazoo
08-30-2020, 20:20
scored some 150 gr hornady 30 cal fmj's a few weeks back. Decided to try out the trail boss "reduced recoil" loads. They call for 150 gr nosler bt's, but why not try the 150 fmj's i have. starting is the high side of 14 gr TB with a 2.800 OAL.
5 @ 50 to see where they papered, then the remaining 5 @ 100 yds. This way i see if there's any tumbling at either distance before i run them suppressed.
Out of my 1:12 20" LTR , off the bench. Outside of adjusting elevation, i think they'll do fine.
https://i.imgur.com/DhV4uydl.jpg
Received two new reloading books on my quest to sort of update my library. Sierra / Speer
beast556
08-31-2020, 09:37
Loaded 200rds of 9mm, also prepped and primed 70 peices of 223 brass to try out the shooters world powder I got the other day.
Sent back the sawge it, not a bad setup but the prep center I was waiting for finally came in at a good price so I ditched the sawge it.
Tumbling the last bit of 45 acp brass now and figured I would finish up inventory and maybe make a few sale ads.
Grant H.
08-31-2020, 21:24
Threw ~800 5.56 in the wet tumbler with just water and soap to clean the dirt off before they go through the case prep 1050. Pulled them out and rinsed them off and left them to dry.
Now that I am back in town for at least a little bit, I am trying to get caught up on everything around the house and some of my hobbies...
beast556
08-31-2020, 21:25
Got my 70 peices of 223 loaded today with various bullets and charge weights. Really hoping this shooters world precision performs good will find out this weekend.
Finally finished fighting my way through processing a 5 gallon bucket of 223 brass. Once it was cleaned and all the junk like steel case junk, berdan primed brass case bullshit, 9mm, 22 lr, 308, 260 ect was pulled out, it went fine.
Now to get started on another 20 gallons of properly sorted 223 LC brass for another forum member.
Great-Kazoo
09-06-2020, 11:09
like hoser sorted through a 5 gal bucket of supposedly 223 / 5.56 only brass. Have the 2nd batch tumbling now, then size, deprime and trim. yeah
Great-Kazoo
09-14-2020, 21:01
like hoser sorted through a 5 gal bucket of supposedly 223 / 5.56 only brass. Have the 2nd batch tumbling now, then size, deprime and trim. yeah
Finally sorted and processed all the 1x fired. 3800 pcs of brass.
https://i.imgur.com/2lbArgil.jpg
i'm putting 1k aside for my bolt action mossberg, chambered in 5.56.
Worked up a load using 22.8 gr WC-844 using 55 gr jsp's.
Did a 50 yd zero so i'm on again @ 200. This is the result, off a bench , bipod and rear squeeze bag. The 5 to the right was the first group. 2nd grouping is, well fairly on the money. But just a tad to the right. The top shot is @ 100 yds to see where POI is.
https://i.imgur.com/0qa0dJhl.jpg
OldFogey
09-15-2020, 07:36
Ran off 50 rounds of .280 for a friend and FINALLY got to use the precision powder trickler I bought from Jim five years ago! Of course, I did not want to get it out of the box until I could move my reloading area inside from the garage. Next, brass processing. Tumbling stays out in the garage to keep Mommy happy.
ChadAmberg
09-27-2020, 09:14
Last couple days, lets see. a couple hundred 45acp, a hundred 38 special, a hundred 380, 50 of 308.
Tumbled a bunch more brass, did an inventory and damnit low on 223 55gr but plenty of everything else. Thought I had more, might have a big box lost in the move maybe? Worst part was I had found a box in stock at a store yesterday before I did my count, and said "Nahhh I know I have enough at home!" I'm sure it's long gone now though.
I lost two out of three ball bearings in my Mr. Bulletfeeder bullet seat die.
Of course anticipating this event I had ordered extras, but currently can't find them.
So today I spent searching, first for ball bearings and then for the spares.
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Slugging my way through processing a bunch of 5-gallon buckets of 223 brass. Roll sizing done. Just knocking it out step by step.
I lost two out of three ball bearings in my Mr. Bulletfeeder bullet seat die.
Of course anticipating this event I had ordered extras, but currently can't find them.
So today I spent searching, first for ball bearings and then for the spares.
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Let me know if you need some.
Let me know if you need some.
I found the spares, so I'm up and running. I just need to suck it up and order some extras. Do you know if Whistler Bearing in town has ball bearings you can buy by size?
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Linkless
10-10-2020, 18:18
Tore down a batch of 6.5x47 Lapua, turned the necks and put them back together. They now go in the chamber. No prep was needed on my McGowen barrel but the X-Caliber is a bit tighter and needed some clean up.
Zombie Steve
10-13-2020, 07:09
Loading some 9mm today. Weird. I'll have to cast some .44's or .45-70's afterward to make me forget.
Great-Kazoo
10-23-2020, 04:17
Dropped a box of 500 xtreme 9mm bullets. But, like Rainman there were still four in the box, four in the box.
Also picked up 8 more containers of trailboss, guy had collecting dust on his shelf, for $10 per.
Dropped a box of 500 xtreme 9mm bullets. But, like Rainman there were still four in the box, four in the box.
Also picked up 8 more containers of trailboss, guy had collecting dust on his shelf, for $10 per.
Trailboss for $10 each?
Huge score.
With all the 223 and 300 Whisper/Blackout brass I have been processing lately, I figured it was time to do a complete tear down on the 1050s and check for any broken or wearing parts.
Luckily, after 3 hours everything was all better and I was back to the races.
44 Mag, 45ACP, 9mm, 30-06 - a good day
Great-Kazoo
10-25-2020, 20:22
Swaged 400ish pcs of 308 brass, another shooter doesn't reload and asked if i could use it. Considering i have (now) 400 bullets of 150 gr 308, why not. Possibly do them all as subsonic rounds later this week.
Ordered a new propane hose for my heater.
Great-Kazoo
10-27-2020, 00:54
Got my 650 back from Dillon. 1 week from drop off & a go thru, to return. Oh FYI. A batch of the new case feeder has a bad board, they replaced that as well.
JethroBodine
10-30-2020, 07:10
Loaded some 300 BO supers this week, going to see how they fly today.
I put a Level 10 Innovations Toolhead spring in my 1050. After many years of processing lots of brass the toolhead sagged pretty good.
This new spring is awesome.
It takes a little more effort to lower/pull the handle, but it returns incredibly easy. Zero effort needed.
I have a few more buckets of brass to process. Lets see how it feels after 9-10K cycles.
Great-Kazoo
10-30-2020, 08:42
I put a Level 10 Innovations Toolhead spring in my 1050. After many years of processing lots of brass the toolhead sagged pretty good.
This new spring is awesome.
It takes a little more effort to lower/pull the handle, but it returns incredibly easy. Zero effort needed.
I have a few more buckets of brass to process. Lets see how it feels after 9-10K cycles.
It will hold up very well. I had about 60k on the 1050, with the L10 spring, when i sold it.
Reachout n Touch'em
10-30-2020, 09:36
I was at a garage sale with my wifey this AM. Was looking around and found a 5 gallon bucket with 223 in black magic marker on the lid I asked what's in the bucket? Once fired brass from a training Saturday or two. Is it for sale I said expecting some fantasy of 2020 kinda price? I'd take $20.00 fer it today, I hoped he didn't notice my slightly twitching happy dance ripping the wallet out of my back pocket. You know a five gallon bucket full of brass sure is heavy! On the drive back to the house my wife said "By that smirk on your face you got the good end of a deal?" Yup was all I said. Cleaning Winchester brass now and for awhile it looks like.
I was at a garage sale with my wifey this AM. Was looking around and found a 5 gallon bucket with 223 in black magic marker on the lid I asked what's in the bucket? Once fired brass from a training Saturday or two. Is it for sale I said expecting some fantasy of 2020 kinda price? I'd take $20.00 fer it today, I hoped he didn't notice my slightly twitching happy dance ripping the wallet out of my back pocket. You know a five gallon bucket full of brass sure is heavy! On the drive back to the house my wife said "By that smirk on your face you got the good end of a deal?" Yup was all I said. Cleaning Winchester brass now and for awhile it looks like.
A mostly full 5 gallon bucket of 223 brass is around 3,000 pcs.
Put some Mobil 1 grease on my LEE mini press I use to size cast bullets. I have more.358 bullets to push through.
Fired up the AMP induction annealer and the AMP Mate for some 300 Whisper/BLK brass for a forum member.
Unannealed brass in the center.
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Limited GM
11-11-2020, 21:57
Cleaned brass for longer than just to make the spiders dizzy to load some XTPs for, well, you know.
Loaded up a few hundred 380s for a lady friend. Great barter fodder.
Tomorrow I'll finish loading what Beowulf brass I've left then switch to 350 Legend.
Check and see if Hoser's answered my BO text.
Check and see if Hoser's answered my BO text.
Try a different brand of deodorant maybe. Lots of chicks are good with BO. But most of them are European or Middle-Eastern.
Reachout n Touch'em
11-20-2020, 14:05
Kool! My arm is tired about 2/3 the way resizing/decapping and only 11 through away's look mostly stepped on. It also had 50+ so far Rem 308 cal.
2,000 rounds of .223 blaster ammo on the 1050. I had a jug of Varget, then I didn’t.
Punched out another buttload of primers, prepping for more brass polishing......
Zombie Steve
11-22-2020, 11:18
2,000 rounds of .223 blaster ammo on the 1050. I had a jug of Varget, then I didn?t.
Varget in a Progressive? What sorcery is this?
Great-Kazoo
11-22-2020, 13:35
the 650 came back from dillon 2 weeks ago, finally setting it back up. Think i'll run a batch of 115's from xtreme and another #1 of tg.
Varget in a Progressive? What sorcery is this?
Its easy. Spend some time polishing the guts of your Dillon powder measure and extruded powders are fine.
You can get Varget to run ok in a throw doing what Hoser mentioned. Not great, but plenty good enough for training ammo.
Been a while since i posted on here. Finally got all my reloading stuff moved from my parents house into my house. Now time too set up everything again. Just need to add a shop sink and some extra outlets where i need them and I'm back to making ammo again.
I spent a few hours doing final prep (AMP annealing and deburr/chamfer on a Henderson trimmer) on some 300 Whisper/BLK brass for a forum member and myself.
Now that that is off my list of things to do, I plan on doing about zero in the reloading room for a while.
Cleaned some 223 pockets and did some sorting.
Had some time to kill today so I turned 3,000 pcs of 5.56 brass into 300 Whisper/BLK brass.
Batteriesnare
12-03-2020, 19:18
Went to resize some 223 cases, then realized I sent my sizing die in to Redding for warranty. [gohome]
On Saturday I loaded 158 rounds of Zero Bullets 147gr. HP 9mm and 158 rounds of RMR 135gr FP using mixed brass, CCI 500 primers, and American Select Powder. Listened to John Prine, John Hiatt, Jennifer Warnes, and The Band on Spotify while I did all this. Today I'll do about 200 rounds of RMR 124gr ball with the same kind of cases, primers, and powder.
Sorted brass yesterday and realized I need more shelf space if I'm going to take one tub and turn it into three or four. Day before I loaded 100 380's with 102gr Golden Sabers and Bullseye.
whitewalrus
12-13-2020, 10:38
Sorted brass yesterday and realized I need more shelf space if I'm going to take one tub and turn it into three or four. Day before I loaded 100 380's with 102gr Golden Sabers and Bullseye.
Funny how reloading seems to monopolize any free space you have. The garage or unfinished basement starts looking real small quick :)
whitewalrus
12-13-2020, 10:42
Thought it would be easy to swap out the primer size on my super swage 600. For some reason the pin for the handle is very tight and needs to be tapped out with a hammer/punch.
Batteriesnare
12-13-2020, 20:28
Loaded my first 308 ladder with 168gr ELDMs over IMR4064. Hope it shoots!
Roll sized and processed some nickel Speer and LC 223 brass for a forum member.
Loaded the last of my, original, Eggleston 200gr .300 blk subs, which were impressively quiet, when they worked. They mostly didn't glad I only had 100, because they are terrible.
Having the 550 on the same work bench that I'm constantly hammering on and doing other work is a real problem. Everything was loose and I was having all kinds of problems. Eventually I find everything that was out of spec and fixed it. Not loading but once a year is tough as well because you forget everything.
Loaded the last of my, original, Eggleston 200gr .300 blk subs, which were impressively quiet, when they worked. They mostly didn't glad I only had 100, because they are terrible.
Having the 550 on the same work bench that I'm constantly hammering on and doing other work is a real problem. Everything was loose and I was having all kinds of problems. Eventually I find everything that was out of spec and fixed it. Not loading but once a year is tough as well because you forget everything.
Were those the old flat point bullets? I saw the flat point bullets and shook my head as to why they would go with them when there is a lot of better options for cast bullets.
I bought a couple cases of the Gallant 217s and they are really good. They even have a slight boat tail to make seating easier and also so you dont shave off the coating when seating.
Not flat, but pretty blunt. They had to be seated so deep that they rattled around in the mag. Also, shaving off the coating was a big problem as well. Many of the rounds I noticed, too late, I could pull the projectiles right out of the case mouth.
I also loaded some 208gr A-max, another discontinued bullet, and the boat tail made all the difference in the world. I don't know when I'll get around to buying more projectiles, but will look into that recommendation. Thank you.
Eta: just looked those up and they look much better.
whitewalrus
12-18-2020, 13:21
I got some of the gallant and they work well. I still had to flare the necks of the brass before seating and then crimp afterwards to keep the coating from coming off.
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I got some of the gallant and they work well. I still had to flare the necks of the brass before seating and then crimp afterwards to keep the coating from coming off.
So far the magic combo I have found is the Dillon C powder funnel (made for the 30 Carbine) and the Lee collet crimp die.
Those two together make it so the coating does not get scraped or cut at any point.
whitewalrus
12-18-2020, 17:18
So far the magic combo I have found is the Dillon C powder funnel (made for the 30 Carbine) and the Lee collet crimp die.
Those two together make it so the coating does not get scraped or cut at any point.
I am just using the AK funnel, which doesn?t open up the neck. So I run a lee universal neck expanding die after the powder drop and then seater, with the crimp die as the last station. I am using a 650, which has the extra station to do it this way.
My supersonic go to is the Speer TNT and don?t have to open up the neck or crimp. So I looked and getting the expander was cheaper if I recall correctly than getting the drop tube you mention. And then maybe if I start shooting lead in other non-pistol cartridges I would have something for them.
Your way is more direct for those who lack the empty station so the way to go for most.
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JohnnyDrama
12-20-2020, 16:48
I managed to follow through with some "load development" I inadvertently got into last week when I realized I had made a mistake loading some shotshells. It came down to either completely tearing 50 shells down and recharging them with a reduced powder charge or opening them up and reducing the shot load. I went from a one ounce load to 7/8 ounce. In addition to correcting the mistake, I loaded 25 shells sort of as a control group. As reducing the shot load is a viable way to increase component economy, I was interested.
Anyway... Today I figured out that I need to work on accuracy before I can take advantage of smaller loads and tighter chokes.
It was kind of fun shooting powder puff loads though.
Great-Kazoo
12-28-2020, 16:23
just shy of 600 pcs 308 brass on the giraud power trimmer. Now to locate another 300 pcs of 150 gr hornady fmj's, for my subsonic 308 loads.
Setup the 750 for 380 and ran a couple hundred. Smooth as silk.
JohnnyDrama
12-29-2020, 00:36
Setup the 750 for 380 and ran a couple hundred. Smooth as silk.
Nice!
I need to get my 650 set up for .357 Magnum. Today I worked through 150 .357 Sig rounds.
jreifsch80
12-29-2020, 18:48
Recently completed my 9mm 700x, 115gr berrys and win small rifle primer load development. I casually loaded 200 rounds for an extended test before going hog wild
Recently completed my 9mm 700x, 115gr berrys and win small rifle primer load development. I casually loaded 200 rounds for an extended test before going hog wild
What powder? How much?
jreifsch80
12-29-2020, 20:44
Imr 700x hi-skor 4.4 grains runs awesome
Imr 700x hi-skor 4.4 grains runs awesome
Thank you sir.
Recently completed my 9mm 700x, 115gr berrys and win small rifle primer load development. I casually loaded 200 rounds for an extended test before going hog wild
Was this a fun experiment, or driven by a lack of pistol primers?
jreifsch80
12-29-2020, 23:14
Was this a fun experiment, or driven by a lack of pistol primers?
Well i have only 1k spp so a little of both. Ive heard of people doing the same.
Disclamer it worked for me and my cz p09 your milage may vary
jreifsch80
12-29-2020, 23:15
Thank you sir.
Also I am seating out to 1.13
Small rifle and small pistol primers are the same, dimensionally.
For high pressure pistol ammo they work fine. But for low pressure ammo they dont work well. The primer cups are harder and dont seal the primer pocket completely. You can get gas leakage and end up with flame pitting on your breechface.
I only sub rifle primers in top end 9x19 and 40 ammo.
Large rifle primers and large pistol primers dont interchange.
jreifsch80
12-30-2020, 11:06
Yes that is good info about the differences in small rifle and pistol primers and something I considered as well. my 700x loads are actually a shade over hodgedon max. The main part of my testing was to see if I had primer leakage. Fortunately no signs of leakage. Also I wouldnt use my cci41s rem 7.5's or fgmm primers in place of spp just wsr, cci400's and rem 6.5 primers. I wish i would have bought more pistol primers a year ago haha
For high pressure pistol ammo they work fine.
Just to add a "Me too!" This is why we used small rifle primers in the .38 Super back when the Major power factor floor was 175 (which meant I loaded to 180). With Major being reduced to 165, .38 Super can make Major with much lower pressures.
But for low pressure ammo they dont work well. The primer cups are harder and dont seal the primer pocket completely. You can get gas leakage and end up with flame pitting on your breechface.
...and that I never knew. Now I do.
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...and that I never knew. Now I do.
Gary or Andy showed me a 38 Super steel gun many moons ago that had a breechface that was all chewed up. Happened in under 500 rounds. I think he put a bushing the breechface instead of replacing the slide.
I just used a 50 dollar off gift certificate with MidWayUSA from an optics purchase. I back ordered M1 Carbine mold along with some reloading manuals and some parts are parts for that caliber from Lee. I rather have the 311-121-RN-H5 4 Cavity RG4 PB from NOE, but back ordering this part is not an option.
I guess if I really, really wanted a NOE mold, I could just do the order 5 molds in that specific caliber and get in the mfg queue that way.
Now for the slow hunt for some gas checks....
General reloading question. Do you anneal your brass after every firing?
I've never annealed my own brass, though I've never reloaded the same brass more than a few times.
General reloading question. Do you anneal your brass after every firing?
I've never annealed my own brass, though I've never reloaded the same brass more than a few times.
Not for most short range ammo.
Out past 600-800 yards, yes. But only because I can.
Lots of national and world championships were won with reloaded brass that was not annealed.
Shit, forgot to turn off the tumbler.
200 rounds of 38spl 148 grain BBWC, 3 grains of Red dot and a Federal primer.
I have been spending quality time cleaning up the work area for reloading. I decided to start putting labels on the outside of boxes and containers so there is less of a where is waldo event when hunting for 'stuff'.
I just finished looking at the new caliber specific reloading guides to determine...nope - they don't have that, can't order that now.
I just got the shipment notification that my M1 Carbine mold by Lee has shipped...so come spring I can get back into casting.
Started taking inventory of all my stuff..... it's going to take years and millions of lives.....
Kinda like an archeological dig...finding stuff I forgot I had.
encorehunter
01-11-2021, 19:19
I rearranged a lot in my reloading room yesterday. I didnt realize how bad it was until the other day I opened a rubbermaid tub that had been sitting there for I dont know how long. In it was 800 rounds of factory .40 jhps, a case of 12 ga, 3 .40 glock mags and some other assorted ammo.
I cleared off some shelves and started sorting my pistol ammo, worked on sorting the boxes of bullets on the components shelves and seperated brass that has been rolling around in several different buckets. I havent loaded a round since going deer hunting in Texas last Thanksgiving.
Tomorrow I will sort shotgun ammo, hopefully rifle ammo as well. My goal will be to reload some by the end of the month.
buffalobo
01-12-2021, 06:44
Dropped a container of 1200 pcs of freshly cleaned 9mm brass in the dirt. [facepalm]
My shop has dirt floor except for office and reloading area. I put tumbler across shop from reloading area due to noise and its annoying.
Great-Kazoo
01-13-2021, 01:14
Nothing. Just stared at the inventory. Trying to decide if i'm going to load .357, 38 or 308. My component privilege is such a first world burden .
leightoncash
01-14-2021, 12:24
I took apart a kitchen trash compactor to salvage the motor and gears, as part of my plan to build a wet tumbler that can tumble a drum the size of a 5 gallon bucket. The idea is to build it with free/salvage materials.
Its dumb that I'm working on this now, when I can't get primers and I'm barely shooting. Something to do, I guess.
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I took apart a kitchen trash compactor to salvage the motor and gears, as part of my plan to build a wet tumbler that can tumble a drum the size of a 5 gallon bucket. The idea is to build it with free/salvage materials.
Its dumb that I'm working on this now, when I can't get primers and I'm barely shooting. Something to do, I guess.
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Nice. Maybe post something up as the project comes together.
I love my wet tumbler other than it only does a few hundred pieces at a time.
Loaded a batch of subsonic 208gr .300blk, that ended up not subsonic.
Loaded a batch of subsonic 208gr .300blk, that ended up not subsonic.
I hope it was a small batch...
leightoncash
01-14-2021, 12:58
Nice. Maybe post something up as the project comes together.
I love my wet tumbler other than it only does a few hundred pieces at a time.I have the Harbor Freight dual drum tumbler and it works perfectly. The capacity is just barely acceptable for pistol brass, but it is really annoying with rifle brass. Whenever I get this done, I'll definitely make a thread explaining what I did..
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I hope it was a small batch...
Everything I had for .300blk is discontinued and under 50, so yes, small.
Goodburbon
01-14-2021, 13:17
I took apart a kitchen trash compactor to salvage the motor and gears, as part of my plan to build a wet tumbler that can tumble a drum the size of a 5 gallon bucket. The idea is to build it with free/salvage materials.
Its dumb that I'm working on this now, when I can't get primers and I'm barely shooting. Something to do, I guess.
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I?ve got an amethyst mine. I had an air compressor fail so I made a open ended 60 gallon rolling tumbler for rocks but it would be fantastic for brass. The Trouble is that In polishing the inside of the drum for coating to protect whatever I tumble I discovered that it will hold over 200# of sand. Tumbling Media is lighter, but It will still cost hundreds to load with media whether I?m polishing rocks or brass. I built it for rock but I think it could tumble every piece of brass of every caliber I own at once.
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Loaded a batch of subsonic 208gr .300blk, that ended up not subsonic.
What was your load?
What was your load?
It was 12gr of 1680 loaded to 2.24" COAL.
I was loading based on a bunch of targets I shot a few years ago and that was the load with the best group. I didn't even look in a book to see what speed that was supposed to be at.
I loaded some Eggleston (original) 200 gr projectiles at something similar and they were definitely subs, but had serious issues.
Hornady shows that load on the edge of sub/super-sonic. Maybe a half-grain less.... good info, thanks!
Out of a 10.5" barrel, by the way.
I didn't try too hard because that projectile is discontinued and I only had 49.
Great-Kazoo
01-14-2021, 21:31
Stared at the 550. Wondering what ever happened to my cover ;)
I need to issue an apology to the board. Or see if I can actually make them. I bought all the material.
It was 12gr of 1680 loaded to 2.24" COAL.
I was loading based on a bunch of targets I shot a few years ago and that was the load with the best group. I didn't even look in a book to see what speed that was supposed to be at.
I loaded some Eggleston (original) 200 gr projectiles at something similar and they were definitely subs, but had serious issues.
Wow, hot.
I run 10.6gr AA1680 with a 208gr AMAX pill @ 2.220 in my 9" AAC barrel with a can.
I did not yet have a chrono when I ran the ladder, but cycled perfectly and had decent groups and were sub.
I have some 220 SMK I haven't worked a load yet, but stock is very limited on these here.
If you haven't found it, check out 300Blktalk site. http://www.300blktalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=141&t=68693
When working up subs, start high and work down.
When you get to around 1025-1050 fps, thats when you start playing with things for reliability and accuracy.
Got everything prepped and ready to load some 9mm for the range.
Haven?t done much reloading in a while so no powder on hand.
Not sure what my chances are of finding some locally but may venture out and take a look.
Goodburbon
01-15-2021, 10:55
Lincoln Park pawn outside of canon city had some powder, but they were about 2x regular price.
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Yeah. Not going to venture that far out looking. Lol.
buffalobo
01-15-2021, 13:27
I have had good luck getting powder at Murdochs lately.
Hmm. I never would have thought about Murdoch?s.
Heck I think the Big R right by my house might carry powder. Might run and look.
Worst case, I?ll probably be up in Wyoming in a week or two and I can probably find something up there.
Hmm. I never would have thought about Murdoch?s.
Heck I think the Big R right by my house might carry powder. Might run and look.
Worst case, I?ll probably be up in Wyoming in a week or two and I can probably find something up there.
I didn't see powder there, but I wasn't looking. They were restocking the shelves yesterday but it's probably all gone now. They were stocking .308 at the time, but I didn't stick around to see what else.
buffalobo
01-15-2021, 15:56
Ray, which flavor you looking for, I will probably be at Murdochs ove the weekend.
Ray, which flavor you looking for, I will probably be at Murdochs ove the weekend.
At this point anything suitable for some 147gr 9mm loads. Can?t be too picky right now.
Titegroup, Universal, W231, Bullseye, N320, CFE Pistol, or pretty much anything that will work.
If they have anything suitable and you?re willing to grab me a pound just do it and I?ll definitely pay you for it.
buffalobo
01-15-2021, 16:38
At this point anything suitable for some 147gr 9mm loads. Can?t be too picky right now.
Titegroup, Universal, W231, Bullseye, N320, CFE Pistol, or pretty much anything that will work.
If they have anything suitable and you?re willing to grab me a pound just do it and I?ll definitely pay you for it.I will check it out.
Thanks. I suppose if they?re out of everything I can either wait until I get up to Wyoming soon or maybe post a want ad here.
Out of a 10.5" barrel, by the way.
I didn't try too hard because that projectile is discontinued and I only had 49.
Well..... that certainly makes a difference.... [Coffee]
Great-Kazoo
01-15-2021, 19:51
Hmm. I never would have thought about Murdoch?s.
Heck I think the Big R right by my house might carry powder. Might run and look.
Worst case, I?ll probably be up in Wyoming in a week or two and I can probably find something up there.
Colorado gun cleaners inside Liberty range in johnstown has powder. They're also expecting a lot of shooters world powder in, soon.
Liberty Guns, on harmony road, ft collins, Has a decent supply of powder, too. Or they did. My cousin was in last week buying any and every thing on my list.
Zombie Steve
01-16-2021, 09:15
Finally got some casting done! It was for me though... not the stars.
Starting building a new bench. Originally thought about extruded aluminum structure, but decided to go with lumber on hand. Some 4x4 legs, 2x4 and 2x6 framing, one surface A-grade plywood top.
Decapped and SS Pin tumbled 200+ 223/556 range pickups
Loaded up some 300 Whisper subs this weekend. As I am loading for a bolt action I didnt have to stick with slow powders to make the gas system work.
Settled on Bullseye for a powder and 215gn Bergers. There is about zero info out there for this combo, but I could find a little info on using the 220 Sierra Matchking.
I tried 5.9-6.5 gns and my rifle did not blow up. No pressure signs such as ejector marks, flattened primer, difficult bolt lift, ect.
As an added bonus, it was Hollywood quiet with my Thunderbeast Dominus. I have heard suppressed 22 rimfires that made more noise.
Now to put some ammo over a chrono and check for accuracy.
Just random numbers...
With a 100 yard zero.
About 45 feet of drop at 600 yards and the bullet will take about 2 seconds to get there. The bullet started out around 1050 fps and by the time it got to 600 yards it is still trucking along at just over 900 fps.
300 Whisper. You?re so old school. I like it.
I don't have a load of experience with subs yet, but I did have a load of .300 blk that sounded like a nail gun. When you say Hollywood quiet, are you talking even more quiet than that?
I don't have a load of experience with subs yet, but I did have a load of .300 blk that sounded like a nail gun. When you say Hollywood quiet, are you talking even more quiet than that?
Yup. TimK was amazed, as was I. Quietest centerfire suppressed round I have heard.
300 Whisper. Youre so old school. I like it.
My man bun is almost old school.
Hmmm, I have a bunch of different powders that I'll never use, but Bullseye isn't one of them. Which isn't a big deal, since I have zero projectiles either.
Hmmm, I have a bunch of different powders that I'll never use, but Bullseye isn't one of them. Which isn't a big deal, since I have zero projectiles either.
Fast burn rate powders like Bullseye/231/TG wont work in a semi auto. They will be quiet, but you will end up with a pump gun.
Fast burn rate powders like Bullseye/231/TG wont work in a semi auto. They will be quiet, but you will end up with a pump gun.
For the AR platform, would you go with A1680, or another powder?
whitewalrus
01-18-2021, 19:50
For the AR platform, would you go with A1680, or another powder?
I use A1680 for my 300 blk subs and it cycles my ARs.
Loaded up some 300 Whisper subs this weekend. As I am loading for a bolt action I didnt have to stick with slow powders to make the gas system work.
Settled on Bullseye for a powder and 215gn Bergers. There is about zero info out there for this combo, but I could find a little info on using the 220 Sierra Matchking.
I tried 5.9-6.5 gns and my rifle did not blow up. No pressure signs such as ejector marks, flattened primer, difficult bolt lift, ect.
As an added bonus, it was Hollywood quiet with my Thunderbeast Dominus. I have heard suppressed 22 rimfires that made more noise.
Now to put some ammo over a chrono and check for accuracy.
Just random numbers...
With a 100 yard zero.
About 45 feet of drop at 600 yards and the bullet will take about 2 seconds to get there. The bullet started out around 1050 fps and by the time it got to 600 yards it is still trucking along at just over 900 fps.
With so much open space in the case I?m curious if you get a lot of velocity deviation. Please post chrono data when possible
For the AR platform, would you go with A1680, or another powder?
That is what I am using. No issues.
With so much open space in the case I?m curious if you get a lot of velocity deviation. Please post chrono data when possible
Not sure yet. Should be interesting.
Great-Kazoo
01-26-2021, 15:44
Nothing the last few days. There's a foot of snow between here and the reloading room.
Got the basic table in place. Next step - sand and seal the top.
Zombie Steve
01-26-2021, 17:41
Cast a pot of .45's the other day... loaded them up.
Oh, and some 9mm - God, I love 9mm. [Kick1]
Grant H.
01-26-2021, 18:53
Started running one of my tubs of 223/556 through the wet tumbler without pins.
Brass prep is so much nicer after a quick wash/dry.
Why no pins?
Just curious.
Grant H.
01-26-2021, 21:18
Why no pins?
Just curious.
Basically just an initial washing to knock all the dirt and grime off before running it through the case feeders and 1050's. Easier on the machines, and makes it easier to spot cases that aren't up to snuff before I spend more time than necessary on them.
My process for range brass is:
1. Wash with soap/hot water
2. Dry
3. Lube, deprime, swage, size, trim
4. Stainless tumble with pins/chips, soap, lemi-shine, etc
5. Load
Thanks. I am about to process a batch of once fired cases that have been in storage for years. I wanted to size and deprime them before I tumbled them but they?re slightly more grungy than I like for running through my dies. Might give the wet tumble a try without the pins and see how that works.
Grant H.
01-26-2021, 22:28
2 Hours in the FA tumbler. Hot water and Great Value "Dawn"...
2 Hours isn't absolutely necessary, but it times well with drying the previous batch in the dehydrator. 1k 223/556 at a shot, 2k 9mm at a shot.
Before:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50879263473_5564f7daed_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2kw2wqz)20210126_211934 (https://flic.kr/p/2kw2wqz) by ARNEWB (https://www.flickr.com/photos/61071044@N08/), on Flickr
After:
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Nice. I?ll give that a try. Thanks for the idea.
I may have to give the dehydrator thing a try also. My current drying method involves baking them like cookies in the oven.
Great-Kazoo
01-27-2021, 10:20
Nice. I?ll give that a try. Thanks for the idea.
I may have to give the dehydrator thing a try also. My current drying method involves baking them like cookies in the oven.
Throw them in a laundry bag, then in the dryer for 15 min, or so.
Lay them on a cookie sheet, place in oven set at 150 for 2 hours.
At least, that my winter/cloudy day plan.
Summer time I just lay them in the sun for a couple hours.
Lay them on a cookie sheet, place in oven set at 150 for 2 hours.
At least, that my winter/cloudy day plan.
Summer time I just lay them in the sun for a couple hours.
Yep, but not too hot or they'll tarnish and change color.
I usually individually clothespin them to the laundry wire, opening down.
Grant H.
01-27-2021, 10:34
Nice. I?ll give that a try. Thanks for the idea.
I may have to give the dehydrator thing a try also. My current drying method involves baking them like cookies in the oven.
Happy to share. The idea isn't original with me, I am sure, but it makes dealing with the brass on down the line so much nicer.
I bought my dehydrator for $5 bucks at ARC (I think). Turns out it's a $50 model from Wal-mart, but it holds the same amount of brass that the tumbler does, heats it to 160, and has a timer that I set for 2 hours.
Throw them in a laundry bag, then in the dryer for 15 min, or so.
My wife tolerates a lot from me, but I don't know that this would be approved...
I usually individually clothespin them to the laundry wire, opening down.
As you should.
Great-Kazoo
01-27-2021, 14:49
Happy to share. The idea isn't original with me, I am sure, but it makes dealing with the brass on down the line so much nicer.
I bought my dehydrator for $5 bucks at ARC (I think). Turns out it's a $50 model from Wal-mart, but it holds the same amount of brass that the tumbler does, heats it to 160, and has a timer that I set for 2 hours.
My wife tolerates a lot from me, but I don't know that this would be approved...
Your shop doesn't have it's own dryer?
Grant H.
01-27-2021, 15:02
Your shop doesn't have it's own dryer?
Shop? Not on this piece of property. This is all in my garage.
Next piece of property? Definitely going to have a shop. Too many projects...
Reloading room thread:
2k of 223/556 washed, with the third in the tumbler now. So much brass to clean/process...
Currently building a wet tumbler. Objective is to do it on the cheap. Lot of interesting designs on youtube.
Grant H.
01-27-2021, 19:18
Currently building a wet tumbler. Objective is to do it on the cheap. Lot of interesting designs on youtube.
I'm sure some here would love to see your build documented.
I went down that rabbit hole, trying to decide if it was worth it.
Given parts/time cost of building one, vs the simplicity of the FA tumbler, I just bought the FA tumbler.
Not always do I make the "right" choice in that regard. Hence why my garage and desk are full of parts, pieces, and tools for projects.
Great-Kazoo
01-27-2021, 20:15
Currently building a wet tumbler. Objective is to do it on the cheap. Lot of interesting designs on youtube.
read my reply below
I'm sure some here would love to see your build documented.
I went down that rabbit hole, trying to decide if it was worth it.
Given parts/time cost of building one, vs the simplicity of the FA tumbler, I just bought the FA tumbler.
Not always do I make the "right" choice in that regard. Hence why my garage and desk are full of parts, pieces, and tools for projects.
On the low budget, wet tumbler.
Cruise CL for a used, usually under $50 treadmill
buy and take home.
remove the tread, take anything off not attached to the front / motorized section.
While you're staring at the project buy what ever size plastic ROUND container you want. That's the start
I'll post a few pics of the tumbler i made out of a $40 tm and 6" pvc. IIRC A few pics are somewhere, in the reloading room thread.
Well.... so much for doing it on the cheap.... I bought some stuff from McMaster Carr to speed up the process.
As far as tumbler container, I'm going to use some 6" PVC with appropriate ends.
Sewer line is a whole lot cheaper.
SSChameleon
01-28-2021, 22:03
I?ve got some sewer line you can have for free, but you have to dig it up.
I?ve got some sewer line you can have for free, but you have to dig it up.
Crappy proposition.....
Great-Kazoo
01-29-2021, 19:59
Crappy proposition.....
IMO, really shitty of him, to ask you to work for it.
Going to take a new shooter to the range in the near future so spent some time today loading up some pistol and rifle rounds.
Modified Dillon Swage tool, ideas thanks to some youtube videos.
The Dillon swage tool has no automatic return mechanism for moving the spindle into final position for swaging.
In the first photo, the underside modifications show the addition of teflon coated (insulated) wire, looped around the spindle nut and a screw drilled/tapped into the handle.
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This next photo shows the swager fully engaged in 'swage' mode:
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As the swage handle is lowered, the wire/cable pulls the spindle open:
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Finally, swage fully retracted:
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The end.
Reloading Bench - in progress:
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Not pretty, but all material was free.
Would the motor from a ceiling fan work for a wet tumbler? Cause I have two of them. Probably not without some gearing, now that I think about it.
I cussed the swaging and priming stations on my 1050 all weekend. Hose helped me diagnose the problem (crushing primers) and it ran the last 500 rounds with very few problems after considerable tinkering.
Also ordered a couple of these.
https://benstoegerproshop.com/daa-powder-spill-prevention-for-dillon-precision-1050-xl650-reloaders/
Supposed to help with powder spraying everywhere. Got one for the 1050 and one for the 650.
Would the motor from a ceiling fan work for a wet tumbler? Cause I have two of them. Probably not without some gearing, now that I think about it.
I'm using a motor from a washing machine.
Grant H.
01-31-2021, 19:02
I cussed the swaging and priming stations on my 1050 all weekend. Hose helped me diagnose the problem (crushing primers) and it ran the last 500 rounds with very few problems after considerable tinkering.
Hoping I never run into this problem, but I am curious what you found to fix it?
Not nearly dumb enough to think I won't have to deal with crushed primers, or other problems with the 1050's.
I made two changes simultaneously. Not sure which was the fix. I increased the amount of swage. Might have been insufficient. I also adjusted the tab that positions the case on the priming station a little closer to the case. Pretty subtle adjustments! I like my 1050, but the priming system is definitely fiddley.
Hoping I never run into this problem, but I am curious what you found to fix it?
Not nearly dumb enough to think I won't have to deal with crushed primers, or other problems with the 1050's.
Grant H.
01-31-2021, 20:23
I made two changes simultaneously. Not sure which was the fix. I increased the amount of swage. Might have been insufficient. I also adjusted the tab that positions the case on the priming station a little closer to the case. Pretty subtle adjustments! I like my 1050, but the priming system is definitely fiddley.
Makes sense. I usually put a piece of scotch tape on the side of a case and slide the delrin piece in till it touches. That leaves ~.002" clearance, which has been pretty reliable for me.
These are two pieces of gear that I have found very helpful when it comes to setting swaging depth, that might be of interest to you and others:
Swage "setters": https://www.ammobrass.com/product-page/ammobrass-swage-setter
Primer pocket Go/No-go Gauges: https://ballistictools.com/store/three-gage-pack
Just getting started with reloading and I have a few test loads ready to check next time I get to the range. I'm gonna love this hobby!
Started running one of my tubs of 223/556 through the wet tumbler without pins.
Brass prep is so much nicer after a quick wash/dry.
Well, I took that advice and ran a few hundred rounds of mixed brass through the wet tumbler for a couple of hours without the pins.
They came out way cleaner than I would have imagined.
Now they?re ready to be sized and deprimed then maybe they?ll make a trip back into the tumbler with the pins for a good cleaning inside and out before they get loaded.
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whitewalrus
02-05-2021, 17:52
Well, I took that advice and ran a few hundred rounds of mixed brass through the wet tumbler for a couple of hours without the pins.
They came out way cleaner than I would have imagined.
Now they?re ready to be sized and deprimed then maybe they?ll make a trip back into the tumbler with the pins for a good cleaning inside and out before they get loaded.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210205/3e7a7b203a73ce9a72799c7512f6e514.jpg
Not sure if the pins are the same as dry media - but certain cases tend to get stuck in each other and then locked in place due to the media. I always separate out before tumbling, or at least those that will be problematic.
HunterCO
02-11-2021, 22:52
Its below zero here right now so my gun room doubles as my indoor shooting range so I shot out the window. I get 40 yards out the window not to bad. If I want to shoot long range I have to go outside and its too damn cold. [AR15]
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