Martial Law

[Bailey Guns]

Manilla must've changed a lot from 72 to 82. I was there in 82 and it didn't look, feel, smell or sound anything like Boston...martial law or not.

[davsel]

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedicti...om/martial+law

The exercise of government and control by military authorities over the civilian population of a designated territory.


Martial law is an extreme and rare measure used to control society during war or periods of civil unrest or chaos. According to the Supreme Court, the term martial law carries no precise meaning (Duncan v. Kahanamoku, 327 U.S. 304, 66 S. Ct. 606, 90 L. Ed. 688 [1946]). However, most declarations of martial law have some common features. Generally, the institution of martial law contemplates some use of military force. To a varying extent, depending on the martial law order, government military personnel have the authority to make and enforce civil and criminal laws. Certain civil liberties may be suspended, such as the right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures, freedom of association, and freedom of movement. And the writ ofHabeas Corpus may be suspended (this writ allows persons who are unlawfully imprisoned to gain freedom through a court proceeding).

If it looks like a duck...

[Dingo]

Unlike some other recent instances of mass destruction, I don't believe Boston was planned or perpetrated by the gov't. However, I do think they're quite adept at turning a situation like that beneficial to their agenda, be it a test run for future plans, emotionally-backed legislation, or bolstering their militant presence incrementally here in the states.

Boston was a perfect scenario for them to practice a bit against what could be an armed insurgency in the future. It's painfully telling of how things have changed from how they used to be. 200, even 100 years ago, an event like that would have been perceived as a threat to the community. To be dealt with by the COMMUNITY... armed posses, deputizations, citizen watches etc. These days, it's just "return to your pens... we'll let you back in the pasture when we've dealt with the threat appropriately."

[Bailey Guns]

I didn't realize military forces were making and enforcing civil and criminal law in Boston. I didn't realize the courts were non-functioning to the point habeas corpus was suspended. Guess I missed that part.

[10mm-man]

Exactly. The police were "asking" people not to go out on the streets where they were conducting operations.

Do you have the source back up, that it was just a polite "stay in your home" request ? I didn't see a soul outside their home, but then again I really didn't follow this. From what I did see; there was not a soul on the street and there were some heavily armed presence rolling around.

Either way there is a war going on and it is now on the streets of America. To what point it escalates is unknown, for now! Of course that is another issues about American rights or enemy combatant. Stay Safe, stay vigilant!

[10mm-man]

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedicti...om/martial+law

The exercise of government and control by military authorities over the civilian population of a designated territory.


Martial law is an extreme and rare measure used to control society during war or periods of civil unrest or chaos. According to the Supreme Court, the term martial law carries no precise meaning (Duncan v. Kahanamoku, 327 U.S. 304, 66 S. Ct. 606, 90 L. Ed. 688 [1946]). However, most declarations of martial law have some common features. Generally, the institution of martial law contemplates some use of military force. To a varying extent, depending on the martial law order, government military personnel have the authority to make and enforce civil and criminal laws. Certain civil liberties may be suspended, such as the right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures, freedom of association, and freedom of movement. And the writ ofHabeas Corpus may be suspended (this writ allows persons who are unlawfully imprisoned to gain freedom through a court proceeding).

If it looks like a duck...

Hummm, Martial law? Looks like Sit......

"the term martial law carries no precise meaning"



So it doesn't have to be said- "were declaring martial law" just the elements have to exist?

[Bailey Guns]

Just quotes in the media from the governor and mayor saying the were either "asking" or "requesting" people to stay home. There are plenty of video clips available where both are using those terms.

[10mm-man]

Just quotes in the media from the governor and mayor saying the were either "asking" or "requesting" people to stay home. There are plenty of video clips available where both are using those terms.

Gotcha! What about the post 2 above ya? Seems it doesn't have to be said, just contain the elemets of, no?

[losttrail]

Very poetic but what exactly does it mean?

Incrementalism. That's what it means. Not taking everything at once, but small pieces, bits at a time.

I believe it was a test and a clever one.

By not issuing an order to stay inside, but making it a request, it was much less innocuous, thus setting the stage for future events. Slowly getting the public used to the idea that the police/mayor/governor are only looking out for their best interests.

Trust Big Brother.

This yahoo had been identified late Tuesday or early Wednesday and was still on the loose, but the request to "shelter in place" was not issued until Friday?

Obama saw his latest photo op on Thursday in Boston, so evidently this remaining terrorist was not too dangerous until after Obama left Boston?

Why was the request to "shelter in place" issued AFTER commuters were already at or on their way to work and school?

How about shutting down the T and taxi services?

BG, you asked "What government?" Gov. Deval Patrick (a government official I believe) issued the "shelter at home" request, correct? Didn't Gov. Deval Patrick also issue the orders to shut down mass transit? As I understand it, a governor is the highest ranking GOVERNMENT official of each state and not just some random civilian.

That government.

How much disruption of mass transit was there following the Alfred P. Murrah Federal building bombing in Oklahoma City? There were no issued requests or orders to "shelter in place" while the suspects were still unknown or known but not yet aprehended.

How about the DC snipers? Was mass transit shut down and the citizenry requested to "cower in fear"? Was DC placed in "lockdown"? No.

Is Chicago placed in lockdown every night due to the mass shootings that occur on an almost daily basis? No.

Just some items to ponder.

[jhood001]

I wouldn't call it martial law, but what was on the news about it and what was actually going on all day were a bit different. While the message may have been 'Please stay in your homes', the 'please' part was dropped if people were out on foot and they were promptly put on their asses and held there. I heard it done twice in the period that I was listening to the scanner that morning.

I'm not sure why anyone even tried to go anywhere though. At least not as long as this guy was delivering free milk: