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    Quote Originally Posted by losttrail View Post
    Why was the request to "shelter in place" issued AFTER commuters were already at or on their way to work and school?
    IIRC, the shelter in place was requested around 4am... I don't know that many people that head to work that early, and I certainly don't know anyone who goes to school that early, not even teachers. I understand the point you're trying to make, but at least try to be factual when citing examples.

    The last 5 days I've been seeing quite a bit of tin foil being donned... I'm not too sure if people are getting more foolish or what, but you know what they say about a drowning man grasping for straws? He still drowns. I concur that a little paranoia and healthy distrust of the government is needed, but you have to draw the line somewhere, otherwise you end up looking like Ted Kazynski or Alex Jones, aka a crazy person. While entertaining, a lot of the folks on Doomsday Preppers are a little bit over that line and venturing into loony territory. I hope they don't do an episode with anyone from on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    And cops, despite their training and equipment, are civilians. They may dress like the military and have some of the same gear and tactics, but they're still subject to civil control.
    THIS! If you were to look at cops (yes, even a SWAT team) and compare them to infantry soldiers, there are so many more differences that it's not even worth counting the similarities.
    Quote Originally Posted by losttrail View Post
    What I did see was that once the 'lockdown' was lifted, a private citizen, exercising his right to kill himself with cigarettes, located the terrorist. So what did the lockdown and door-to-door searches accomplish?

    It sent a lesson to the citizens that the 4th and 14th Amendments are easily suspended based upon a supposed threat. No, I am not saying that the threat was fictional. It was real and I agree that it makes sense to reduce the number of innocents from the equation.

    I just don't see all that happened as 100% benign.
    I'm just curious, if you were in charge of the situation and you had an armed and dangerous terrorist on the loose in a very loosely defined area (let's say 20 square blocks or so), what would you do to try and find him and mitigate the risk to the public?
    Last edited by Ronin13; 04-23-2013 at 09:57.
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