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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabid View Post
    Republicans made them liberals by not excepting them. If anything having this issue off the table is going to help win Republicans seats in political races.
    I have several non-breeder friends who all say that they would like to vote republican (for financial conservative reasoning) but their not going to vote against 'who they are'.. Think of them as single issue votes. Question is what happens when you remove the single issue.
    What is my joy if all hands, even the unclean, can reach into it? What is my wisdom, if even the fools can dictate to me? What is my freedom, if all creatures, even the botched and impotent, are my masters? What is my life, if I am but to bow, to agree and to obey?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabid View Post
    Republicans made them liberals by not excepting them. If anything having this issue off the table is going to help win Republicans seats in political races.
    Log Cabin Republicans. But anyway, if homosexuals are allowed to marry then anti-polygamy laws should be next to go, it's only fair.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabid View Post
    It is hard to understand that was the point you were making in the first place.
    Just asking for some honesty (I know, that's asking a lot this day in age), call it Gay rights, stop trying to dress it up as civil rights so they can brand the opposition as bigots or evil.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jumpstart View Post
    Log Cabin Republicans. But anyway, if homosexuals are allowed to marry then anti-polygamy laws should be next to go, it's only fair.....
    Why do people draw that conclusion? Take a step back and realize how absolutely ridiculous that sounds... "Well if gays can marry then what's next? Polygamists? Pedophiles? Beastiality?" Come the hell on, that's reaching...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    Why do people draw that conclusion? Take a step back and realize how absolutely ridiculous that sounds... "Well if gays can marry then what's next? Polygamists? Pedophiles? Beastiality?" Come the hell on, that's reaching...
    Why is it reaching? If the argument for gay marriage is "let you marry who you love," then why is polygamy any different?

    I think it was on the Michael Brown show (may have been Glenn Beck, can't remember), they presented the interesting idea: "It is perfectly legal for multiple people to live and have sex together, UNTIL they try to get the government to recognize it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by RblDiver View Post
    Why is it reaching? If the argument for gay marriage is "let you marry who you love," then why is polygamy any different?

    I think it was on the Michael Brown show (may have been Glenn Beck, can't remember), they presented the interesting idea: "It is perfectly legal for multiple people to live and have sex together, UNTIL they try to get the government to recognize it."
    Agree.

    But first, they will get gay marriage legalized in all 50 states by using the DOMA decision (equal protection). Shouldn't take long.

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    Polygamy should be legal.. Anything between two (or more) consenting adults -- that does not clearly harm or injure any other party - should be legal.
    What is my joy if all hands, even the unclean, can reach into it? What is my wisdom, if even the fools can dictate to me? What is my freedom, if all creatures, even the botched and impotent, are my masters? What is my life, if I am but to bow, to agree and to obey?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post

    Why do people draw that conclusion? Take a step back and realize how absolutely ridiculous that sounds... "Well if gays can marry then what's next? Polygamists? Pedophiles? Beastiality?" Come the hell on, that's reaching...
    I guess it does sound ridiculous, kinda like two men getting "married" to each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asmo View Post
    Polygamy should be legal.. Anything between two (or more) consenting adults -- that does not clearly harm or injure any other party - should be legal.
    I agree... Polygamy aside, I can't stand it when people go out on a limb and reach with the statements that "first comes gay marriage, then you just watch, next will be pedophiles and animal lovers."
    Quote Originally Posted by Jumpstart View Post
    I guess it does sound ridiculous, kinda like two men getting "married" to each other.
    If you think two men loving each other is strange or ridiculous, or dare I say wrong, then you might want to come into the 21st century... you know we no longer hunt with clubs and rocks, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    If you think two men loving each other is strange or ridiculous, or dare I say wrong, then you might want to come into the 21st century... you know we no longer hunt with clubs and rocks, right?
    I feel homosexuality is evolutionary and innate and the repulsion to it is too, no matter what type of brainwashing occurs in current popular culture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumpstart View Post
    I feel homosexuality is evolutionary and innate and the repulsion to it is too, no matter what type of brainwashing occurs in current popular culture.
    Now you're just confusing me... you stated that two men getting married to each other is ridiculous, now you're saying homosexuality is natural? And repulsion to it is as well? Can you clarify, because that doesn't really make a whole lot of sense.
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