NAGR spends more than every gun group combined on lobbying

[Monky]

You've pretty well managed to get the majority of the population here annoyed with you.

Can you take a guess as to why you don't receive money?

Perhaps it's past time to step down Dudley. Let someone else take the reins and see if they can't fix what you broke. I'm sure lots of people here would love your salary.


Sent by a free-range electronic weasel, with no sense of personal space.

[RMGOdirector]

Respectfully, public policy isn't made by public opinion. It's made by policy makers (i.e. politicians).

The expansion of the Brady Registration system, which right now is taking the form of the bill pushed by Toomey-Manchin, is going to be voted upon by politicians.

MOBILIZING citizens to oppose it, and hold politicians accountable for their votes, is the goal of NAGR in this skirmish (and where we spent most of that $3 million this quarter).

We could have spent it on TV commercials extolling the virtues of the Second Amendment -- and watched Toomey-Manchin pass.

Limited time/money/talent. My job is largely to sift through all projects/ideas, and spend RMGO and NAGR's time/money/talent on those projects we believe make the most difference. And when you make those decisions, a chunk of people get mad that you aren't following their strategy.

If you have a pro-gun project you want pursued by the organizations I represent, here's the checklist:

1. Does it fit RMGO and NAGR's overall strategy? You can read about that here: www.rmgo.org/strategy
If yes, then go to number 2
If no, is it a self-funding project that won't take staff time? If so, who's volunteering to lead it? Are you?
2. Does the organization have the headspace and funding for the project? Sometimes, we don't have the additional headspace to sharpen a pencil, given the workload in the legislative or campaign seasons.

I can list a thousand things I think "need" to be done. But since we can't do them all, we have to limit what we do.

Doesn't that make sense?

[HBARleatherneck]

where can I read about how much Dudley and his wife made off these two organizations. How many homes do they now own? I know how to find out how many homes. But, is there somewhere that says how much Dudley takes in for himself?

[RMGOdirector]

You've pretty well managed to get the majority of the population here annoyed with you.

There are HOW many users on this forum, and 10 bellyaching?

Perhaps it's past time to step down Dudley. Let someone else take the reins and see if they can't fix what you broke. I'm sure lots of people here would love your salary.

Don't know who you are (sorry, I've never met "Monky") so can't say whether you could do my job. Please, list your qualifications to build and lead a group. Love to see that.

If you want RMGO to get rid of me, talk to RMGO's chairman. I'm sure he'd take your call. chairman@rmgo.org

But, RMGO is hiring. So, if someone here is anxious to work in politics and be paid to do it, fire off a resume.

However, it's a starting position. It's not NEARLY as small as my salary (a stipend, actually) for the first decade of RMGO's existence, but it's a starting position.

[RMGOdirector]

where can I read about how much Dudley and his wife made off these two organizations. How many homes do they now own? I know how to find out how many homes. But, is there somewhere that says how much Dudley takes in for himself?

Guidestar.org lists the 990 filings for EVERY non-profit in America, including RMGO and NAGR. And we provide copies of our filings upon request.

I (and my wife) own one house (though, frankly, it's none of your damn business). My wife has put in thousands of volunteer hours for RMGO, stuffing mail and data entry, and never been paid by RMGO.

But, before I get too mad and start a fight here, I'll tell you straight up that I won't answer any questions from anonymous forum lurkers.

[275RLTW]

Dudley,
People on here are trying to give you input on how they feel your organization could better serve the 2A populace in CO. You are getting direct feedback on how to improve. Companies pay thousands for this. In return, you do nothing but try to call people out, insult them, and state that no one else can do your job. Perhaps this is the exact reason why YOU are not liked or respected. NAGR/RMGO could do a lot better...your ego is holding it back. Is that straight forward enough for you?

[davsel]

There are HOW many users on this forum, and 10 bellyaching?

Well, let's make it 11.
Tried it, didn't like it, stuck with the NRA.
Attitude played a major role in my decision. And when I see that attitude displayed here, it reinforces my confidence in that decision.

[HBARleatherneck]

funny, weld county assessor lists two in you and your wifes name. or are you saying a condo isnt a house? now what do you own elsewhere?

basically we know you make alot of money for yourself FEAR MONGERING and hating on every other organization. i paid you for several years, until your douchebag nature showed through.

[Ronin13]

United we stand, divided, we fall.

Funny, the liberals have this idea all figured out... but for some reason, Dudley likes to poke the NRA/ILA and try to display them in a negative light. Instead, how about UNITING with them for a common goal? "But they haven't done this or that..." Quiet! MAN THE FUCK UP! Petty bickering and moaning about the other guy is only hurting us, not helping.

Not sure if this is just quoted from an article or authored by Dudley Brown. Either way, it seems to me anyone reporting on this should know that the NRA doesn't lobby anyone. They can't.

The NRA/ILA (Institute for Legislative Action) is the lobbying arm of the NRA. Yes, it's a technicality but an important one, especially to those who are uninformed. It seems, once again, Dudley is using a divide and conquer approach in an attempt to bad-mouth the NRA.

I, too, tend to support pretty much ANY pro-gun group. But I'm also sick of Brown's constant bashing of the NRA...even when he means the NRA/ILA. RMGO no longer gets my support for this very reason.

THIS! Same here! I was a first year member right after the noise in the aftermath of Sandy Hook, then saw what kind of vile tactics Dudley uses to bash the NRA (who I've been a member of for a long time), and sorry, heart's in the right place, but your execution fucking blows! Pardon my profanity, but for crying out loud, TFOGGER put it best: "Divided we fall"/fail.

ETA: That is why I have the RMGO Member instead of just deleting it... It's not about the money, it's about sending a message. Are you listening Dudley? Fix your org, find a way to work with other 2A groups, and I'll come back and support you 100%. Until then, Chris Cox will continue to get a nice quarterly check from me to keep fighting without putting down fellow gun groups.

[3beansalad]

Mr. Brown, as a RMGO member I support what you are doing, but I find your posts in this thread concerning.

You should never be worried about getting 'too mad' at the people you claim to represent. This is a forum you joined with what I can only assume is a desire to connect with like minded people and reach out to further the influence of all gun owners in the US. I agree with coloccw when he said we are providing you focus group intel at no cost. I think most members will agree there is something we disagree with the NRA on, so bashing them for what you don't like is preaching to the choir. Telling people who give you an opinion about what we think needs to be done differently within your organization should be met with praise and thanks for the information, along with a vow to address the issues we see, not sarcasm. Or calmly explaining why things are the way they are in hopes you can bring 'us' around to your way of thinking.

So that I am not another nameless person in your eyes:

David Peal
CS, CO 80922.