Take back the schools-Take back our nation.

[BigBear]

I'll wait a while until more responses are involved... but in the meantime: Get rid of the standardized tests, all the extraneous paperwork, the "goals" that have to be met, etc. Just let teachers TEACH. Re-instate spanking/discipline measures (ISS/alternative school is a joke, suspending a kid is a free vacation), responsibility, and free thought.

[68Charger]

I'll wait a while until more responses are involved... but in the meantime: Get rid of the standardized tests, all the extraneous paperwork, the "goals" that have to be met, etc. Just let teachers TEACH. Re-instate spanking/discipline measures (ISS/alternative school is a joke, suspending a kid is a free vacation), responsibility, and free thought.

I don't have any problem with standardized tests... But when funding is tied to the results, then you find out what the administration really cares about!

[BigBear]

I don't have any problem with standardized tests... But when funding is tied to the results, then you find out what the administration really cares about!

Yes, I should've been clearer. The test themselves is not the issue. It is the funding in relation to the test and how teachers must teach to the test (instead of rational thinking skills and general knowledge) in order to keep their job/credentials/performance pay/all the other crap.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Yes, I should've been clearer. The test themselves is not the issue. It is the funding in relation to the test and how teachers must teach to the test (instead of rational thinking skills and general knowledge) in order to keep their job/credentials/performance pay/all the other crap.

The NEA-approved curriculum doesn't have anything to do with teaching rational thinking skills or what we would call "general knowledge" either. At least the standardized tests make them spend time on stuff like math, English and actual history instead of why Heather Has Two Mommies or other sensitivity/diversity BS. I'd rather have teacher teach to a test that at least verifies basic skills than have kids indoctrinated by more of the PC diversity crap or junk science like carbon dioxide being an evil toxic chemical that should be regulated by the EPA.

[SG1]

The NEA-approved curriculum doesn't have anything to do with teaching rational thinking skills or what we would call "general knowledge" either. At least the standardized tests make them spend time on stuff like math, English and actual history instead of why Heather Has Two Mommies or other sensitivity/diversity BS. I'd rather have teacher teach to a test that at least verifies basic skills than have kids indoctrinated by more of the PC diversity crap or junk science like carbon dioxide being an evil toxic chemical that should be regulated by the EPA.

Amen I dont care about heather having two moms(unless they are bi and looking for a young stud)

How do we get out of this mess? short of the a economical collapse