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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    Just teaching kids how the real world operates.
    So you condone this notion of elitism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crays View Post
    So you condone this notion of elitism?
    Really?

    I also recognize the fact that our country has been overthrown by Marxists.
    Does that somehow imply that I condone the fact?

    I think you may have over-reached.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    Really?

    I also recognize the fact that our country has been overthrown by Marxists.
    Does that somehow imply that I condone the fact?

    I think you may have over-reached.
    And, perhaps, you have over-reacted. A simple "no" would have been sufficient. You made what I took as a matter-of-fact, if not somewhat aloof, statement: "Just teaching kids how the real world operates." I asked a simple question in regards to that response, not an implication of your beliefs. My apologies if you took it as a personal attack.

    Let's get back to GG's thread here, and not start our own semi-hijacking splinter.

    1. Kids will be kids.
    2. Kids are not always the most compassionate, when it comes to dealing with peers.
    3. Kids will do stupid crap without fully thinking though the repercussions.
    4. Sometimes adults don't fare much better, especially when placed in an actual, or even perceived, position of authority/power/etc.

    While I'm sure GG's stepdaughter had no malicious intent (see #1, #2), she and her friends overstepped the line when they entered the vehicle, unlocked or not (see #3, #1).
    Does the coach/principal have the authority to intiate the punitive measures she did (see #4)? Maybe/maybe not, due to many good points brought up by fellow members thus far. I am in agreement that the daughter will likely face punishment at home more severe than missing a volleyball match, as we can all attest to GG's character through our dealings with him. Could the school administration have handled it more tactfully? Likely so.
    Though there was potential property loss/damage involved, I would hope it is not so severe that this situation cannot be resolved through good parenting, some humble apologies, and the application of what seems to be a good "teaching/learning/life-lesson situation".

    Davsel, from your reply regarding the authority of coaches, band directors, etc., I think you may be overlooking an important aspect of extra-curricular activites.
    I agree with flyingcouch and Lurch, regarding the "additional responsibilities" (for lack of a better phrase) of any coach. Part of the purpose of team sports, and many e-c activities in school is personality and character building/development.
    Also curious as to the capacity the adult was acting under (coach/principal) when the punishment was determined.

    John, you should definitely have a conversation with the principal/coach.

    ETA: Just my opinion on it.
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