Public School over-reach?

[davsel]

Why is it it that when the. "in crowd" kids prank an "outsider" it's youthful indiscretion, but when an the tables are reversed, it's malicious mischief?

Just teaching kids how the real world operates.

[crays]

Just teaching kids how the real world operates.

So you condone this notion of elitism?

Sent via my Mobile Work Avoidance Device

[hatidua]

the Principal decided that the girls involved in the prank will be prohibited from playing in the next volleyball game.

That's it?!

If someone did that to my car, and it caused the loss of my belongings, -well, some things are better not put into print.

Those girls got off light and now realize that the only scholastic repercussion from messing with another students car is missing a volleyball game.

[davsel]

So you condone this notion of elitism?

Really?

I also recognize the fact that our country has been overthrown by Marxists.
Does that somehow imply that I condone the fact?

I think you may have over-reached.

[flyingcouch]

I did not realize this board was made up of so many perfectly disciplined former youth.

I'm thankful that where I grew up, parents and schools knew the difference between criminal activity and youthful pranks.
You get caught pulling a prank off campus, the parents get involved; on campus, the school and the parents get involved.
Cops should not get called for pranks, no matter where they occur.

As far as a coach's jurisdiction, it does not extend beyond the school and the practice field. These are not professional athletes who are being paid to play. That would be more equal to any full-time employment, where if you mess up outside of work, and it reflects negatively on your employer, you get fired. These are kids in an extracurricular activity.

Coaches, Band Directors, Drama Teachers, etc., don't have special disciplinary privileges that extend beyond their roll as the organizer of an activity.
If something happens during school or practice, the coach should handle it, along with the parents.
If it happens outside of school or practice, it is the parents responsibility.

I don't think anyone here is preaching from their pedestal. I think they are just saying that its ok for the volleyball coach to discipline a player in this situation. Does not mean that they never screwed up.

I believe coaches should hold their players to a higher standard. don't be confused because the principle is the coach. I believe this was the reaction from the "coach" and not the principle. recently my sons highschool football team was spreading some rumors amongst themselves regarding the female student team managers. Their next practice was heavy on the conditioning and involved a lot of running, crawling, up-downs, high knees, more running, sprinting, and throwing up. The school cannot discipline this way, but the coach can. Coaches do have special disciplinary privilages.

[Lurch]

Flyingcouch beat me to this but I will still leave my response.

What everyone keeps over looking here is was it the principal that gave them the one game suspension or the coach. Granted this is the same person who is most likely volunteering their time to teach/coach these kids but that is the question that needs answered. If it's the principal side of this person then yes they have over stepped their boundaries. If it's the coach side then no they have all the right to suspend someone from playing.

[CO Hugh]

Co Hugh your last statement has me a bit puzzled. Are you saying that peoples actions outside of work shouldn't effect their work or peoples actions outside of school shouldn't effect their school?

Not per se the employer or private actor enforcing its own rules. My problem is a government entity, say the state medical board, subjecting you to discipline for an unrelated criminal matter.

It seems to be overreach by the state.

[Colorado_Outback]

Apparently, this girl was not running with the "in crowd" and the prank was not welcome to say the least. The girl did file a police report.

Its pretty obvious from your post that your step daughter and her friends are bullying this girl.

Call it a "prank" if you want to but that's the reality of the situation.

As far as the disciplinary action gos after school sports are a privilege, not a right. Don't like the punishment? pull her out of Volleyball. Problem solved.

I'm glad the girl they are bullying filed a police report. I hope an officer shows up to talk to her about what happened, in my experience that's one of the only things bully's understand. That or getting the shit kicked out of them.

[Monky]

Oddly enough.. in the news..

Coach suspends ENTIRE football team for Cyber bullying..

I was a perfect angel as a child..

[02ducky]

I say it's an overreach of the school and the continued pussification of kids. Oh I forgot its for the kids... Pfft, whatever.

Why can't parents hold their kids accountable for their actions? Off school grounds, didn't involve the school or the school system. Calling bullshit on this one.