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    Default Researching Changing Career Field to Govt.

    Hi – This thread is mainly going to be calling out to any of you might have previous or current knowledge and experience in Govt. jobs that might be able to give me helpful info, food for thought, etc. Maybe one day meet for lunch or coffee and further discuss my options or a plan of action to get from point A to point Z.

    Please though keep in mind that I really don’t want to hear any nay say’ers or pessimistic comments. I am a doer, I am a go getter and don’t believe that nothing is out of reach. Especially since that is how I got my current job. J I am just looking for positive, honest, helpful advice and guidance.

    Back on point, I currently work as a Project/Program Manager at a corporation doing something I enjoy for the most part. I do find that I don’t feel completely satisfied. I feel like there is still a need or hole in the fulfillment of my life for doing something worth while. I want to know that at my funeral I have a short or long list of things I did to better the greater good over a single wealthy CEO. I am going to be honest though, I am a picky individual so I understand I am limiting my options but still believe there is a position out there that will be a good fit for me. I don’t really want to walk away from a good career that I mostly enjoy for something much worse.

    I want to make the jump to a government / federal law enforcement type of job if possible. Being that I don’t have LE or Military experience I understand the fact that it’s a long shot. But hey, being that I still have a job, I have time on my side to keep going for long shots, while starting to stack the deck to make it less of a long shot.

    So to the point, I am looking for help in finding positions and job titles that those of you on the inside may be aware of that exist, but that on the outside, may not have high enough visibility for me to know they exist. I provide a list below of the types of things I am looking for:
    • Govt. Job
    • Taking action, to resolve issues or prevent issues to help people or save people.
    • Something that doesn’t require relocating. I have a nice home and all my family here in the Denver Area.
    • I don’t mind traveling a bit as I am single but am not going to sell my home or move out of it.
    • I am not positive but leaning away from a street officer because I don’t think solving petty disputes, DV, and things like that aren’t for the greater good. If someone wants to argue with someone else about something like who owns a coffee pot or something is dumb.
    To help draw a better picture, I have an example or two that some friends gave me of types of things I think I would enjoy. I’d list more but that is why I am posting this thread. I don’t know what exists out there.

    ·Federal Air marshal
    ·Maybe a US Marshal
    ·Maybe a field Project manager or something for security or something?
    ·I am computer/tech savvy so maybe something that is a hybrid of computer crap and field work?


    Sorry this wasn’t written out as well as I had hoped while thinking about it over the past week. That’s what I get for trying to pound this out real quick while at work.

    Being that some on here like their anonymity, I understand that you may prefer a PM or email off of the board. I also understand that you may not be willing to tell me who you work for or what you do. Honestly that is fine by me, It may not matter much what you do as much as it matters what your advice and suggestions are. J

    Cheers.

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    You and I feel exactly the same way about law enforcement I think. Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sturtle View Post
    You and I feel exactly the same way about law enforcement I think. Good luck.
    as to what specifically? Not wanting to deal with the petty stuff or what?

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    Yeah. For a while I was going to apply for the FBI, and I actually did apply for some local PD. I'm glad I wasn't selected for the PD though, because I don't think it would have been a good fit for me. Also, I can't really relocate (pretty much a given with the FBI).
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    Well, I don't know anything about Federal law enforcement work. I will say I wouldn't mind working for the government though. I have had a similar thought, but for more selfish reasons. I'm tired of being laid off.

    One would think the government, on either the state or federal level would need competant, licensed plumbers for maintenence and repair of their facilities.

    I'm not sure who to ask or how to apply. Maybe I should do some homework.

    Good luck on your endevor. I hope you find something you enjoy which will have meaning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenScoutII View Post
    Well, I don't know anything about Federal law enforcement work. I will say I wouldn't mind working for the government though. I have had a similar thought, but for more selfish reasons. I'm tired of being laid off.

    One would think the government, on either the state or federal level would need competant, licensed plumbers for maintenence and repair of their facilities.

    I'm not sure who to ask or how to apply. Maybe I should do some homework.

    Good luck on your endevor. I hope you find something you enjoy which will have meaning.
    You'd be suprised, more often than not the government contracts that kind of work out....

    your best bet is to find a contractor that gets alot of government work, or start your own contracting business, which is what I would suggest. Working for other people sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KFinn View Post

    ...I want to make the jump to a government / federal law enforcement type of job if possible. Being that I don’t have LE or Military experience I understand the fact that it’s a long shot. But hey, being that I still have a job, I have time on my side to keep going for long shots, while starting to stack the deck to make it less of a long shot.


    So to the point, I am looking for help in finding positions and job titles that those of you on the inside may be aware of that exist, but that on the outside, may not have high enough visibility for me to know they exist. I provide a list below of the types of things I am looking for:
    • Govt. Job
    • Taking action, to resolve issues or prevent issues to help people or save people.
    • Something that doesn’t require relocating. I have a nice home and all my family here in the Denver Area.
    • I don’t mind traveling a bit as I am single but am not going to sell my home or move out of it.
    • I am not positive but leaning away from a street officer because I don’t think solving petty disputes, DV, and things like that aren’t for the greater good. If someone wants to argue with someone else about something like who owns a coffee pot or something is dumb.
    To help draw a better picture, I have an example or two that some friends gave me of types of things I think I would enjoy. I’d list more but that is why I am posting this thread. I don’t know what exists out there.

    ·Federal Air marshal
    ·Maybe a US Marshal
    ·Maybe a field Project manager or something for security or something?
    ·I am computer/tech savvy so maybe something that is a hybrid of computer crap and field work?
    Been working for Uncle Sam for more than 28 years, but I am not an expert in career management. With that said, I do know a few things, here are my observations based on your post. You did not mention your age, that is a factor when working for a Federal LE agency, but not for many state and local entities. You did not mention if you have a college degree, although not required for the majority of federal blue and white collar positions, it is for many of the Federal LE positions.

    Working for the FBI: Must have a 4 year degree from an accredited college/university. Must be between 21 and 39 years of age. Must be in excellent physical condition, the FBI academy is no joke and they are looking for only the best, both physically and academically. Military vets are looked at favorably in the screening and selection process.

    Working for the Federal Air Marshal Service/US Marshal Service/Other Federal LE Service/Agency: Must be between 21 and 39 years of age. They normally do not hire off the street, although it is not a written policy. If you are a current LEO at local/state level then you will be looked at, interviewed, and if you are what they are looking for, will be hired and processed in. The ATF and US Marshal Service is full of cops that moved up from local PDs and SOs. That is how it works.

    Here is the bottom line: You do not have to be a college grad for many Federal LE positions, but they will not seriously consider you without it. You do not have to be a military Vet for any Federal LE position, but many of the current members are or serve in the reserves. It is an exclusive club you are trying to join, you need to talk the talk, but more importantly walk the walk. A successful tour with a branch of service speaks volumes about your character, commitment, and dedication to service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KFinn View Post
    Hi – This thread is mainly going to be calling out to any of you might have previous or current knowledge and experience in Govt. jobs that might be able to give me helpful info, food for thought, etc. Maybe one day meet for lunch or coffee and further discuss my options or a plan of action to get from point A to point Z.

    Please though keep in mind that I really don’t want to hear any nay say’ers or pessimistic comments. I am a doer, I am a go getter and don’t believe that nothing is out of reach. Especially since that is how I got my current job. J I am just looking for positive, honest, helpful advice and guidance.

    Back on point, I currently work as a Project/Program Manager at a corporation doing something I enjoy for the most part. I do find that I don’t feel completely satisfied. I feel like there is still a need or hole in the fulfillment of my life for doing something worth while. I want to know that at my funeral I have a short or long list of things I did to better the greater good over a single wealthy CEO. I am going to be honest though, I am a picky individual so I understand I am limiting my options but still believe there is a position out there that will be a good fit for me. I don’t really want to walk away from a good career that I mostly enjoy for something much worse.

    I want to make the jump to a government / federal law enforcement type of job if possible. Being that I don’t have LE or Military experience I understand the fact that it’s a long shot. But hey, being that I still have a job, I have time on my side to keep going for long shots, while starting to stack the deck to make it less of a long shot.

    So to the point, I am looking for help in finding positions and job titles that those of you on the inside may be aware of that exist, but that on the outside, may not have high enough visibility for me to know they exist. I provide a list below of the types of things I am looking for:
    • Govt. Job
    • Taking action, to resolve issues or prevent issues to help people or save people.
    • Something that doesn’t require relocating. I have a nice home and all my family here in the Denver Area.
    • I don’t mind traveling a bit as I am single but am not going to sell my home or move out of it.
    • I am not positive but leaning away from a street officer because I don’t think solving petty disputes, DV, and things like that aren’t for the greater good. If someone wants to argue with someone else about something like who owns a coffee pot or something is dumb.
    To help draw a better picture, I have an example or two that some friends gave me of types of things I think I would enjoy. I’d list more but that is why I am posting this thread. I don’t know what exists out there.

    ·Federal Air marshal
    ·Maybe a US Marshal
    ·Maybe a field Project manager or something for security or something?
    ·I am computer/tech savvy so maybe something that is a hybrid of computer crap and field work?


    Sorry this wasn’t written out as well as I had hoped while thinking about it over the past week. That’s what I get for trying to pound this out real quick while at work.

    Being that some on here like their anonymity, I understand that you may prefer a PM or email off of the board. I also understand that you may not be willing to tell me who you work for or what you do. Honestly that is fine by me, It may not matter much what you do as much as it matters what your advice and suggestions are. J

    Cheers.

    I do know federal air marshal is a relatively boring job. you do get cool training though and could be a good lead to future .gov jobs. you will spend some time away from home.
    you will not get paid all that much.
    while on the job your ass is going to hurt from sitting in tight airplane seats next to fat people. you will also be bored as very very little happens.

    I might have a link to a security job but it is up in ft. collins. not sure if it has been filled yet. supposed to talk with that guy today and I will post back with info.
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    I figure you'd get a lot of reading done being an air marshal. Isn't that job all but extinct though?
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    Think this may help me at all since nothing in my personal situation hasn't changed in the last few weeks?

    http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/air-ma...9493323&page=1

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