I'm thinking of buying a Frontier...

[Ronin13]

How so? I was a perspective buyer a few years ago and I was smart enough to see that higher used truck prices meant higher resale value. They go hand in hand so you're not going to find a Tacoma that's only a few years old worth half as much as it's new price but this also means that you don't have to worry about selling your new Tacoma (or used for that matter) at a HUGE discount to get it sold. They're a desirable truck and you can try to explain why this is a bad thing or you can realize that this equates to resale value (usually due to proven reliability over decades of service) and invest a little bit more up front to get a more reliable truck that is worth more later or you can save a few bucks now and probably have more issues to fix while owning it and get much less for resale or trade-in later. That's just how it works & I don't make the rules of the free market.

True- but when I read several reviews and hear from several people that if it was so superior why is the Nissan better in several categories then the resale value thing becomes more of a overpriced thing. My opinion anyway.

[Jer]

True- but when I read several reviews and hear from several people that if it was so superior why is the Nissan better in several categories then the resale value thing becomes more of a overpriced thing. My opinion anyway.

Does it matter? Neither you or I decide public perception so why fight it? Sure, you can buy a Nissan because you feel like it's better but that won't change the fact that the Tacoma is a more sought after truck and has been for quite some time. Likely will be for quite some time. When you go to resell your Frontier it will have lost more of it's value and likely it will have cost you more to maintain over the course of ownership.

It might also have to do with the fact that when I head up wheelin' in the mountains I see TONS of Toyotas, Jeeps & very few Nissans and the ones I do are usually older 4-Runners that are SAS'd out. Probably a reason for that too. Even if you don't plan to offroad your truck this should be something you take into consideration as it points directly to build quality and reliability which carries over to even pedestrian uses of the same vehicle.

All that being said, other than a better sounding stereo system I didn't feel like the Frontier was better after driving several of both back to back. The Nissan had more bells, whistles and whiz-bang things that made you think it was sparkly and shiny but in the end I prefer the simplicity of the Tacoma just like I did my previous Tundra. It didn't lead the segment in the latest gizmos but what it had was well thought out and just worked. Period.

[DYoung]

How 'bout a Cummins diesel Frontier?
http://www.nissanusa.com/future-and-...-diesel-runner

[Jer]

How 'bout a Cummins diesel Frontier?
http://www.nissanusa.com/future-and-...-diesel-runner

I still don't understand why anyone would want a diesel powerplant in a mid-size truck. With diesel prices and restrictions as they are in the US it doesn't make economical sense. If you need the torque then you likely will invest in a full-size truck with the frame to handle it it is you need a diesel for. They last longer but the buy-in price difference will mostly offset that. I know there are those who are outspoken about it but it appears as though I'm in the vast majority as nobody is tripping over themselves to bring it to market. I mean, if you have a use for it then you're probably pretty excited about the news but I won't be trading my Tacoma in on one anytime soon.

[ZERO THEORY]

I do have to say, Frontiers look awesome with some suspension work.

I still don't understand why anyone would want a diesel powerplant in a mid-size truck. With diesel prices and restrictions as they are in the US it doesn't make economical sense. If you need the torque then you likely will invest in a full-size truck with the frame to handle it it is you need a diesel for. They last longer but the buy-in price difference will mostly offset that. I know there are those who are outspoken about it but it appears as though I'm in the vast majority as nobody is tripping over themselves to bring it to market. I mean, if you have a use for it then you're probably pretty excited about the news but I won't be trading my Tacoma in on one anytime soon.

I'd like a diesel mid-size because it offers enough torque to really push that off-road limit in steep inclines. It offers better fuel economy which should already be present in a smaller truck. You get the comfort and reliability of an iron block and head, more speed, and a more impressive power band.

I agree that if you need a diesel for pulling or hauling, you'll be going full-size anyway. But it's a cool, long overdue way to bridge the gap between recreational 4x4 and trucking.

[Jer]

I do have to say, Frontiers look awesome with some suspension work.






I'd like a diesel mid-size because it offers enough torque to really push that off-road limit in steep inclines. It offers better fuel economy which should already be present in a smaller truck. You get the comfort and reliability of an iron block and head, more speed, and a more impressive power band.

I agree that if you need a diesel for pulling or hauling, you'll be going full-size anyway. But it's a cool, long overdue way to bridge the gap between recreational 4x4 and trucking.

Tacomas look pretty awesome lifted too and there's WAY more of an aftermarket if you like lifts and 4-wheel parts & such.

With an iron block & head comes more weight. More weight is proportionately a downside on smaller trucks than it is larger trucks. There's guys doing pretty good work with 4cyl engines on rock climbing. As for more speed and more impressive power band I have a TRD supercharger so I get the best of all worlds.

[Graves]

I still don't understand why anyone would want a diesel powerplant in a mid-size truck. With diesel prices and restrictions as they are in the US it doesn't make economical sense. If you need the torque then you likely will invest in a full-size truck with the frame to handle it it is you need a diesel for. They last longer but the buy-in price difference will mostly offset that. I know there are those who are outspoken about it but it appears as though I'm in the vast majority as nobody is tripping over themselves to bring it to market. I mean, if you have a use for it then you're probably pretty excited about the news but I won't be trading my Tacoma in on one anytime soon.

How is it hard to understand the benefits of the diesel? On average a tank of diesel will be about 6-7 bucks more than a tank full of petrol for the frontier, and the Cummins improves mpg's by about 35%. 30mpg, 350 lb-ft tq; I can see the taco bias, man, but c'mon. Most of us already know how tuner friendly diesels can be about more power and fuel economy.