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    How 'bout a Cummins diesel Frontier?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DYoung View Post
    How 'bout a Cummins diesel Frontier?
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    I still don't understand why anyone would want a diesel powerplant in a mid-size truck. With diesel prices and restrictions as they are in the US it doesn't make economical sense. If you need the torque then you likely will invest in a full-size truck with the frame to handle it it is you need a diesel for. They last longer but the buy-in price difference will mostly offset that. I know there are those who are outspoken about it but it appears as though I'm in the vast majority as nobody is tripping over themselves to bring it to market. I mean, if you have a use for it then you're probably pretty excited about the news but I won't be trading my Tacoma in on one anytime soon.
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    I do have to say, Frontiers look awesome with some suspension work.




    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    I still don't understand why anyone would want a diesel powerplant in a mid-size truck. With diesel prices and restrictions as they are in the US it doesn't make economical sense. If you need the torque then you likely will invest in a full-size truck with the frame to handle it it is you need a diesel for. They last longer but the buy-in price difference will mostly offset that. I know there are those who are outspoken about it but it appears as though I'm in the vast majority as nobody is tripping over themselves to bring it to market. I mean, if you have a use for it then you're probably pretty excited about the news but I won't be trading my Tacoma in on one anytime soon.
    I'd like a diesel mid-size because it offers enough torque to really push that off-road limit in steep inclines. It offers better fuel economy which should already be present in a smaller truck. You get the comfort and reliability of an iron block and head, more speed, and a more impressive power band.

    I agree that if you need a diesel for pulling or hauling, you'll be going full-size anyway. But it's a cool, long overdue way to bridge the gap between recreational 4x4 and trucking.

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    Glock Armorer for sexual favors Jer's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZERO THEORY View Post
    I do have to say, Frontiers look awesome with some suspension work.






    I'd like a diesel mid-size because it offers enough torque to really push that off-road limit in steep inclines. It offers better fuel economy which should already be present in a smaller truck. You get the comfort and reliability of an iron block and head, more speed, and a more impressive power band.

    I agree that if you need a diesel for pulling or hauling, you'll be going full-size anyway. But it's a cool, long overdue way to bridge the gap between recreational 4x4 and trucking.
    Tacomas look pretty awesome lifted too and there's WAY more of an aftermarket if you like lifts and 4-wheel parts & such.

    With an iron block & head comes more weight. More weight is proportionately a downside on smaller trucks than it is larger trucks. There's guys doing pretty good work with 4cyl engines on rock climbing. As for more speed and more impressive power band I have a TRD supercharger so I get the best of all worlds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    I still don't understand why anyone would want a diesel powerplant in a mid-size truck. With diesel prices and restrictions as they are in the US it doesn't make economical sense. If you need the torque then you likely will invest in a full-size truck with the frame to handle it it is you need a diesel for. They last longer but the buy-in price difference will mostly offset that. I know there are those who are outspoken about it but it appears as though I'm in the vast majority as nobody is tripping over themselves to bring it to market. I mean, if you have a use for it then you're probably pretty excited about the news but I won't be trading my Tacoma in on one anytime soon.
    How is it hard to understand the benefits of the diesel? On average a tank of diesel will be about 6-7 bucks more than a tank full of petrol for the frontier, and the Cummins improves mpg's by about 35%. 30mpg, 350 lb-ft tq; I can see the taco bias, man, but c'mon. Most of us already know how tuner friendly diesels can be about more power and fuel economy.
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