UNCONSCIOUS PROFILING / DOJ Interference

[roberth]

They avoid threads where facts counter the belief, hopefully.

They must avoid them because they certainly aren't learning anything.

This "unconscious bias" implies that babies are racist which I think is just silly. I know hadji/holder are racist, anyone with their eyes open can see it, fridell is just another "white guilt" idiot. This administration is trying to get a race war going, they'll fail but idiots on both sides will get hurt.

[SamuraiCO]

And the police unions continue to support Dems. When will the rank and file learn their problems are being caused by those they elect to represent their best interests.

[RMAC757]

They avoid threads where facts counter the belief, hopefully.

Your beliefs fit your agenda and are hypocritical at best. Profiling....great idea, unless it comes to us gun owners right? What if they profiled those of us who are on record for owning firearms....especially NFA? I mean 100% of firearm owners commit 100% of firearm related crime obtained legally or not. You would go apeshit if the goverment violated your rights by singling you out for your purchases. What if the goverment started profiling those who made anti-govt remarks on websites as subversive? How about making white kids go through metal detectors as they go into schools seeing how they are most likely to go crazy and shoot up the place. Again, everyone would be in an uproar. What if police depts or the military started profiling their members based on a composite makeup of who are against anti firearm restrictions? When I worked loss prevention at few different dept stores one common theme stuck out....everybody steals and to focus on one group in particular will narrow your focus. It was not policing, but taught me some valuable lessons on focusing on any one group ( aside from the fact that it against our rights as Americans ). We want the right to assemble in front of the capital to stand up for our 2A rights but are ready to oppose anyone else who exercises the same constitutionally guaranteed protections. We stand for the constitution, not just the parts we like.

[SuperiorDG]

So the cops are now being profiled as unconscious profilers?

[Dave_L]

Just building the case of "We need to remove local law enforcement and use a federal agency.".

[muddywings]

PhDs who write this stuff need to put down their nerd glasses, go through LEO training, put on a vest, strap a pistol to their hips and work the midnight shift for 6 months in a major urban area. Then from the perspective of someone who has been there/done that, rewrite that drivel to say, 'thank you police for doing a thankless job, have a nice day.'

[Great-Kazoo]

PhDs who write this stuff need to put down their nerd glasses, go through LEO training, put on a vest, strap a pistol to their hips and work the midnight shift for 6 months in a major urban area. Then from the perspective of someone who has been there/done that, rewrite that drivel to say, 'thank you police for doing a thankless job, have a nice day.'

Agreed. Had mark Furman said Under Oath. You show me a street cop who has not use a derogatory term when describing a suspect, I'll show you a liar. INSTEAD of saying I never used the N word, OJ would have been convicted.

[Great-Kazoo]

Your beliefs fit your agenda and are hypocritical at best. Profiling....great idea, unless it comes to us gun owners right? What if they profiled those of us who are on record for owning firearms....especially NFA? I mean 100% of firearm owners commit 100% of firearm related crime obtained legally or not. You would go apeshit if the goverment violated your rights by singling you out for your purchases. What if the goverment started profiling those who made anti-govt remarks on websites as subversive? How about making white kids go through metal detectors as they go into schools seeing how they are most likely to go crazy and shoot up the place. Again, everyone would be in an uproar. What if police depts or the military started profiling their members based on a composite makeup of who are against anti firearm restrictions? When I worked loss prevention at few different dept stores one common theme stuck out....everybody steals and to focus on one group in particular will narrow your focus. It was not policing, but taught me some valuable lessons on focusing on any one group ( aside from the fact that it against our rights as Americans ). We want the right to assemble in front of the capital to stand up for our 2A rights but are ready to oppose anyone else who exercises the same constitutionally guaranteed protections. We stand for the constitution, not just the parts we like.

PLEASE spar me the BS. I have been profiled countless times because of skin color in the 70's & 80's. Couldn't go 1/2 mile without being pulled over, just because they wanted to "talk" to me AND w/out permission start ripping my vehicle apart.

As for gun owners being profiled... WE ARE and have been since the late 80's. The countless Anti-Gun groups pigeon hole us as unstable extremist who own Assault weapons with ARSENALS of guns & ammo.
http://www.livescience.com/28617-pre...n-control.html

The safe act also allows for gun Confiscation when A person in the medical field feels a gun owner may posses a threat, Based on their Opinion. Not facts but OPINION.

http://www.socialjusticesolutions.or...g-requirement/

If the individual possesses a gun, the license will be suspended and law enforcement will be authorized to remove the person’s firearm (or the individual may be prevented from obtaining one in the future). This change is currently scheduled to take effect on March 16, 2013 which is 60 days from the date the legislation was signed into law.

There are laws in CA CT, MA and IIRC MD that allow for removal of firearms.

[RMAC757]

PLEASE spar me the BS. I have been profiled countless times because of skin color in the 70's & 80's. Couldn't go 1/2 mile without being pulled over, just because they wanted to "talk" to me AND w/out permission start ripping my vehicle apart.

As for gun owners being profiled... WE ARE and have been since the late 80's. The countless Anti-Gun groups pigeon hole us as unstable extremist who own Assault weapons with ARSENALS of guns & ammo.
http://www.livescience.com/28617-pre...n-control.html

The safe act also allows for gun Confiscation when A person in the medical field feels a gun owner may posses a threat, Based on their Opinion. Not facts but OPINION.

http://www.socialjusticesolutions.or...g-requirement/

If the individual possesses a gun, the license will be suspended and law enforcement will be authorized to remove the person’s firearm (or the individual may be prevented from obtaining one in the future). This change is currently scheduled to take effect on March 16, 2013 which is 60 days from the date the legislation was signed into law.

There are laws in CA CT, MA and IIRC MD that allow for removal of firearms.

So in essence, you are agreeing with everything I said.

[cstone]

INSTEAD of saying I never used the N word, OJ would have been convicted.

I disagree with that conclusion. That trial was lost long before the first witness testified. Certainly by the time the jury was empaneled there was little hope for a conviction. The judge and prosecutors primped and preened for those cameras in a most disgusting fashion.

The verdict however was not followed with weeks of burning and looting in any neighborhoods that I am aware of.

Profiling and discrimination are not in and of themselves inherently wrong. If we did not discriminate between colors, no one would stop at red lights. If there were no profiles, we would never be able to narrow down thousands of qualified applicants to arrive at a more manageable pool of well qualified applicants.

When we profile and discriminate, using overly broad or meaningless criteria, or misuse the techniques to skew results away from the intended outcome; good employees or equal justice, then we do everyone, including ourselves a disservice. We get mediocre or poor employees or miscarriages of justice.

No one is perfect, No not one of us. To expect perfection in any human system is naive. Strive always to do your best and learn to live with the 70% solution. More than 70% and you begin fighting against diminishing returns.

Be safe.