Another shooting

[Great-Kazoo]

When the first club incorporated and became a "Business".
Hells Angels IIRC.

LOCAL 81. HA and all HA related items are .......................COPYRIGHT & TRADEMARK protected. Big Red machine, Local 81, Red & White, World Wide etc. "They" had an Idea and it's paid off. As it gets warmer, check out those Red & White sneakers, YEP HA Paraphernalia.

[Great-Kazoo]

Huh, no preferential treatment there.

Look at that picture. NOW flash back to the MEDIA camera's snapping, video whirling. If anyone remembers That guy... Was shown being escorted out in bracelets with a serious number of LE's surrounding him. That pic of him with another "club" member and 2 cops. IMO that was or may have been taken earlier in the day.
I find it hard to believe (hypothetically) IF said person was the POI. with all the security there around him. At the hospital etc. Why is this guy staandign there alone? seems suspicious.

Of course it would not be the first time i might have been incorrect

[Great-Kazoo]

When the first club incorporated and became a "Business".
Hells Angels IIRC.

Also after the DPD paid $25K ?? to the denver chapter for "harassment" and other assorted lawyeresque words.

[Martinjmpr]

I'm still a little mind-blowed about the notion of a "law enforcement outlaw club."

How is membership in an "outlaw motorcycle gang" not grounds for being fired from your LE job?

[Great-Kazoo]

I'm still a little mind-blowed about the notion of a "law enforcement outlaw club."

How is membership in an "outlaw motorcycle gang" not grounds for being fired from your LE job?

Diversity ?

[hurley842002]

I'm still a little mind-blowed about the notion of a "law enforcement outlaw club."

How is membership in an "outlaw motorcycle gang" not grounds for being fired from your LE job?

They would have to know about it first...

[Great-Kazoo]

They would have to know about it first...

With the amount of surveillance one supposedly has on OMG's, it wouldn't be hard to review photos. Maybe they're the domestic terrorist and not returning veterans?

[Martinjmpr]

They would have to know about it first...

So cops don't have to periodically do background checks after they're hired? In the Army I had to update my clearance every 5 years.

With the amount of surveillance one supposedly has on OMG's, it wouldn't be hard to review photos. Maybe they're the domestic terrorist and not returning veterans?

Yeah, if the ATF is saying this is an outlaw gang and has LEOs in it, shouldn't the ATF be providing those agencies with a list of known or suspected members? Seems like a pretty easy thing to do, ATF provides the list, cop/gang member gets called into the chief's/sheriif's office. Show him surveillance photo in gang cut. "Is this you?" "Yes." "Turn in your badge and gun. You're fired."

[hurley842002]

So cops don't have to periodically do background checks after they're hired? In the Army I had to update my clearance every 5 years.



Yeah, if the ATF is saying this is an outlaw gang and has LEOs in it, shouldn't the ATF be providing those agencies with a list of known or suspected members? Seems like a pretty easy thing to do, ATF provides the list, cop/gang member gets called into the chief's/sheriif's office. Show him surveillance photo in gang cut. "Is this you?" "Yes." "Turn in your badge and gun. You're fired."

Some agencies do periodic background checks, some don't. As it pertains to the guy in the shooting, it's the DOC, the only time his background would come into question after initial clearance, is if he got into trouble after being hired.

[Irving]

Some agencies do periodic background checks, some don't. As it pertains to the guy in the shooting, it's the DOC, the only time his background would come into question after initial clearance, is if he got into trouble after being hired.

Like if he murdered someone?