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LOL. Neat jab but I think its more of a reflection of my age bracket.Originally Posted by hurley842002
ETA: Its not just postings from individuals. Lots of stories of "That's not locker room talk" and "I was sexually assaulted and Trump laughs about it" from the media branch of Clinton's campaign AKA Facebook "trends".
Last edited by Dave_L; 10-10-2016 at 10:04.
Which age bracket is that?
Interesting, I've literally seen nothing, even in the "trends".
Im 32 so ages range upper 30's to high 20's. Its not so much support for Hillary as the tearing down of Trump while ignoring anything Hillary has done/said.
Amber Tamblyn was a trending thing this morning per FB so I clicked it to see and that was the article talking about a prior assualt and how Trump laughs while she is permanently changed.
One of my friends that is normally all about Johnson posted a long post about "if you're mad at hillary for this, but not for <insert long list of things that republicans/trump did> then you're an idiot".
Thirdly, saw plenty of articles saying "Men dont appreciate you calling it locker room talk as men don't talk that way" being shared and promoted.
In my true circle of friends (real life vs internet), no, I dont have any hillary supporters. But I do find it intriguing to keep tabs on the other side and see what they're saying/feeling/doing.
Same age as me.
Ok? All I'm saying is what I'm seeing. Glad you're not seeing the same thing. I logged in this morning and got hit with 4 things either pro-Hillary or tearing Trump apart and questioning anyone that supports him.
What Trump said 11 years ago was wrong. It was wrong then and it is still wrong today. He has admitted that and has apologized for making the statements.
What Hillary Clinton was responsible for while being paid by the taxpayers to represent our nation to the world was wrong, and illegal, regardless of whether she is prosecuted or not. She has apologized for some of her illegal conduct while continuing to lie or obfuscate about other conduct.
Do their apologies mean anything to you?
Does their conduct change the way you will vote in this election?
Karl Denninger sums it up nicely:
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=231536
The Sexual Undertone You WON'T Hear In The Media
Let's get the easy part out of the way first: What Trump said 10 years ago and was caught on open mic, then held until it could be released right when the Dems were scared of what Wikileaks had just revealed about their candidate, was both boorish and outrageous.
It was also an honest reflection by a man without a filter who in fact was describing something that I have personally seen with my own eyes and is 100% correct.
There is a pretty ugly little undercurrent when it comes to sex and sexuality that a lot of people know damn well is right but they don't like it, so they refuse to talk about it. When confronted with it they get defensive or attack the messenger, which is exactly what happened here.
So let's talk about that just a bit.
First, let us define terms. Sexual assault only happens if there is no consent. A woman who "lets you do it" is consenting. No means no and yes means yes.
What Trump said was that "they'll let you do it." Well, there is a certain subset of women to whom that applies if they think you're rich, powerful or both.
It doesn't matter if they're married, have a boyfriend, or whatever. They simply don't care; they want to screw the rich guy and they're going to unless you, as the rich guy, say no. And let's be straight with people here -- a larger percentage of men will say "oh hell yeah" than there are women who have this particular thing going on in their head.
There are a couple of "poker runs" that happen in the local area here featuring lots of loud, fast cigarette-style boats. An utterly-amazing percentage of them feature a 50ish fat and ugly dude driving and a bunch of 20 year old women wearing just enough to not get arrested hanging all over him. There will be those who say "oh they just want a boat ride"; to them I will point out that I've come around the corner in a nice quiet cove more than once and seen the beast with two backs -- there was certainly a ride being given but.....
The price of admission? About $200 large or thereabouts for something impressive enough to counter the extra 30 years of fat and ugly dude compared against the very beautiful 20ish year old girls on board. Believe me, the note on that boat plus the 100+ gallons of fuel burn per hour is, for many of these guys, worth it.
Then there's this -- for a number of years here I owned a 45 Hatteras. I used to get propositioned with some regularity too. It's simply amazing how all those propositions disappeared literally on the day I no longer had said boat.
Hmmm... did I really get that much older, fatter and/or uglier in 24 hours? I don't think so, but perhaps you have some other explanation.... eh?
Let's face reality -- women "open the door" when they'd like to hook up -- or more. When it comes to consensual sexual contact in places other than forced-repressive regimes such as Iran and Saudi Arabia women, not men, are the ones who make that decision. If you're a man when she makes that decision you either aggressively pursue at that point or you're not getting laid -- period.
When it comes to women who like to play with men that have perceived money, power or both they do not care about what anyone else thinks -- they want it, they make damn sure their target knows they want it, and if he has any interest at all then that's that. The smart women in this group know damn well they're just out for a good time; there are a few who get delusions of grandeur mixed in with it (e.g. "oh he'll love me if I **** him") but that almost-always ends badly.
Reality is that sex has a price and I'm not talking about prostitution. I'm talking about the fact that you can easily triple your odds of getting laid in this area by simply buying a $250,000 loud penis-extender style boat, whether you can pay cash for it or simply float the payments. The same is almost-certainly true in any big city in America if you buy a Lambo along with a $5,000 suit and tool around to the nightclubs in it -- providing someone doesn't steal the car, that is.
That is what Trump was talking about, and while it was rude, unbecoming and insulting it is also true. Of the woman in question he was talking about what married woman lets a guy other than her husband take her furniture shopping (where do you think the furniture is going to go?) if she's not thinking about banging him?
REALLY?
Attack the guy for having no filter if you want, especially in 2005 -- because he clearly didn't have one!
But that a couple of men were discussing the state of what is when it comes to rich and powerful men, and the women who like to bed them and aggressively open the door to same is surprising to..... whom?
Only those who want to deny that women, in point of fact, are just as capable of aggressively seeking out sexual contact with those who they desire, and that some subset of them desire to do so with men they perceive as rich, powerful or both.
If you're in that group then what you are asserting is in fact that women are infants and incapable of making sexual decisions on their own, deciding who they wish to sleep with on whatever terms they, and they alone, decide.
Are you sure you really want to go there?
Davsel, thank you for that. That is nicely put. Too bad the left wont hear any of it. Im serious too. If you were to post that on a social media site, I bet you'd get ripped to pieces for "defending" Trump's comments.
Last edited by Dave_L; 10-10-2016 at 11:30.
I think the issue is that they still need to pull in as much of the women's vote as they can, especially on the side races. Remember, we need to not only get back the presidency but retain effective control of both the House and Senate in order to undo all the damage that Obama/Pelosi/Reid put in from 2006-2010. Congresses of 2012 and 2014 were somewhat ineffective because they were bottlenecked at the Senate, the White House, or both. Reagan was stymied on his efforts to reduce the federal government by Democrat control of the House. The other Republicans running can't afford to have their opponents spring a "oh, you support sexual assault and manhandling women" charge against them.
I think this late video was intended to be Hillary's October surprise. You can't tell me her minions in Hollywood didn't know about this video for years and have it waiting in the wings for just the right moment. No one does opposition research and smear campaigns like the Clintons.
Yet Corey Haim, being sexually assaulted for years in hollywood story, no longer exist. Even though it made internet headlines for maybe 2-3 days, then gone. Go figure.
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