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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin View Post
    Guns, Germs, and Steel, along with most of Jared Diamond's output is highly over rated.

    Take a look at the criticism of his tale about Easter Island for a good look into how he basically peddles facil bs.
    I tend to leave criticism to critics. They're more interested in claiming accomplishment on works that have been done than actually doing work themselves.

    I don't take anything that I read as gospel. But I know when I've gotten good information from something.

    I found Guns, Germs and Steel enlightening in a lot of different ways.

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    So people on Facebook are "checking in" to Standing Rock as a way of showing support and making it hard for cops to know who's there for real or not. I haven't heard many updates on this so figured I'd bump it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_L View Post
    So people on Facebook are "checking in" to Standing Rock as a way of showing support and making it hard for cops to know who's there for real or not. I haven't heard many updates on this so figured I'd bump it.
    The ones on public land are wrong for trespassing. The one's on rez land should never be harrassed by K-9's and what i have seen to be "private security" crossing on to the rez. It's become a drone v drone with unmarked / no visible registration? numbers on the copters for the contractors.

    It's going to be along winter...
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    currently I can't link the article due to URL blockage at work, but there is a lot more to this than being circulated by the anit-gov crowd. There has been considerable accommodation and adjustments to building sites and schedules...the Lakota lost out on about $50mil in compensation as well.

    There is a lot more to this than it seems and despite typical government overreach and heavy handedness, this is a slightly different situation. ...which is why most of the stuff that has hit the court system was shot down.
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    Kraven, I've heard a few things like that. Ive been told there is A LOT more to this.

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    I read somewhere that the pipeline doesn't even cross res land. Then when confronted with that fact, they said "well, it will cross a river that flows through our res and if there's a leak....." blah blah blah.

    I don't know much about this shitstorm, but if this is true it's much ado about nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GilpinGuy View Post
    I read somewhere that the pipeline doesn't even cross res land. Then when confronted with that fact, they said "well, it will cross a river that flows through our res and if there's a leak....." blah blah blah.

    I don't know much about this shitstorm, but if this is true it's much ado about nothing.
    That is my understanding as well from the little I've heard outside of Facebook land.



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    Quote Originally Posted by GilpinGuy View Post
    I read somewhere that the pipeline doesn't even cross res land. Then when confronted with that fact, they said "well, it will cross a river that flows through our res and if there's a leak....." blah blah blah.

    I don't know much about this shitstorm, but if this is true it's much ado about nothing.
    If a fertilizer plants waste line broke and contaminated the water that runs through your property. Wouldn't you have an issue with it?

    There was a lot of outrage when the epa fucked up, polluting water all the way down through NM.
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    Personally I would have a considerable amount of problems with a pipeline under my water source...realize that is a water source for a large chunk of that region in some part or another.

    That said, if they focused on that instead of all of the shit that isn't actually true, it would have gained far more traction early on.
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