Quote Originally Posted by rondog View Post
Anybody have any recommendations for good books/info about keto? I'd like to know more, seems like there's a lot of different info swirling around.
People seem to either like Karl Denninger or think he's a pompous ass, but I found these three posts of his helpful:
Survey View on the Theory
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=3289664
Macro View on the Theory
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=3405842
Micro View on the Theory (specifically named foods)
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=3406845

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Non-Denninger:

Post on veggies:
https://www.ruled.me/best-low-carb-v...etogenic-diet/

Foods in general:
https://ketodietapp.com/Blog/post/20...-Eat-and-Avoid

Pizza recipes!:
https://www.ketoconnect.net/recipe/keto-pizza/

Basic rules I've been following w/ success:

If it once had blood in it or came from something with blood in it = good, except milk (cheese is fine, but not in huge quantities)
If it once grew in the ground and was not processed (i.e., wheat, barley, etc.) it may = good, unless it is a potato or rice

The key thing to understand is it's not about denial so much as what's good for you. Many things which are prima facie tasty and fun, are literally awful for you and killing you.

The denial aspect sets boundaries, but you can play around within that framework to experiment what works best for you all you want.

Chesterton touched on these realities and how to understand limitation in his book Orthodoxy:

To desire action is to desire limitation. In that sense every act is an act of self-sacrifice. When you choose anything, you reject everything else…Every act is an irrevocable selection and exclusion. Just as when you marry one woman you give up all the others, so when you take one course of action you give up all the other courses…It is the existence of this negative or limiting side of will that makes most of the talk of the anarchic will-worshippers little better than nonsense.

Anarchism adjures us to be bold creative artists, and care for no laws or limits. But it is impossible to be an artist and not care for laws and limits. Art is limitation; the essence of every picture is the frame. If you draw a giraffe, you must draw him with a long neck. If, in your bold, creative way, you hold yourself free to draw a giraffee with a short neck, you will really find that you are not free to draw a giraffe. The moment you step into the world of facts, you step into a world of limits. You can free things from alien or accidental laws, but not from the laws of their own nature.

You may, if you like, free a tiger from his bars; but do not free him from his stripes. Do not free a camel of the burden of his hump: you may be freeing him from being a camel. Do not go about as a demagogue, encouraging triangles to break out of the prison of their three sides. If a triangle breaks out of its three sides, its life comes to a lamentable end. Somebody wrote a work called “The Loves of the Triangles”; I never read it, but I am sure that if triangles ever were loved, they were loved for being triangular. This is certainly the case with all artistic creation, which in some ways is the most decisive example of pure will. The artist loves his limitations: they constitute the thing he is doing. The painter is glad that the canvas is flat. The sculptor is glad that the clay is colourless.
Just like adherence to truth, morality, etc. require a rejection of certain things which are "fun", particularly in excessive quantities, so too does adherence to a healthy lifestyle require rejection of the overwhelming amount of sugar disguised as "food", be it a candy bar or "healthy" things like bread and rice.

It's not about rejection of the bad per se, so much as embracing the good. The embracing simply demands a rejection of certain things antithetical to the objective which demands action.

Apologies if this got too highfalutin...