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    Quote Originally Posted by hurley842002 View Post
    That's about the most retarded argument I've ever heard...
    How do you figure? Use your words and explain what you find 'retarded' about what you read.

    You're from New York so you get to carry your 7 round mags in your home state. Billy Bob from XYZ state comes to New York and he's packing just like in his home state. Massachusetts has limits to which firearms its citizens can own, but visitors can carry whatever is legal in their home state. What's right about that?

    You're from a state that doesn't require a 'permit' to CCW (Constitutional Carry), so how does reciprocity work?

    I think what this does is illustrate the stupidity of these limits in states with them, including ours, and the difficulties of managing different gun laws in different states. "Shall not be infringed" would make this a whole lot easier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    How do you figure? Use your words and explain what you find 'retarded' about what you read.

    You're from New York so you get to carry your 7 round mags in your home state. Billy Bob from XYZ state comes to New York and he's packing just like in his home state. Massachusetts has limits to which firearms its citizens can own, but visitors can carry whatever is legal in their home state. What's right about that?

    You're from a state that doesn't require a 'permit' to CCW (Constitutional Carry), so how does reciprocity work?

    I think what this does is illustrate the stupidity of these limits in states with them, including ours, and the difficulties of managing different gun laws in different states. "Shall not be infringed" would make this a whole lot easier.
    Don't like the draconian laws of your worthless state, then move, it's quite simple. We have a 15 round mag limit, but I'd not be butt hurt (like you), if someone from a freedom loving state came to visit, and could carry 17 rounds.

    You seem to be worried about being "outgunned", I don't really think anyone interested in "outgunning" you is worried about a silly mag capacity law.

    There are my words...

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    Wow. Pretty amazing that you jumped right to the 'butt hurt' level. Did you assume that I was concerned that legal CCW carriers were coming from out of state for a gunfight? That would be retarded.

    I'm not so concerned about myself, but am thinking on a national scale, particularly for states that have even more restrictive laws than our own. Think California, where most of the population can't carry legally, but visitors could carry whatever was legal in their home state. In the converse, CA residents in a state where legal CCW is common or Constitutional Carry, the laws of their home state say they can't CCW. I'd be pleased if there was national reciprocity, but I also think it'll be a mess to implement and enforce. Kinda' like legalizing weed at a state level while it's illegal at the federal level.
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    Default H.R. 38 - National Concealed Carry Reciprocity

    The H.R. 38 bill, one of the best pro gun bills introduced in our nations history is avout to get drug through the mud and have another insidious bill, the "Fix NICS" bill tacked onto it as it exits committee tomorrow (12/05/2017). Below is a link at the Gun Owners of America (GOA) website where you can contact your representative and voice your opinion on this matter. I would stronly urge you to NOT use the pre-filled out form letter that GOA has in the message box, to many of those and it will look like a Bot.

    https://www.gunowners.org/alert12042017.htm

    Here is the message I sent to my Rep. Congressman Ken Buck - R. District 4 CO.

    "When I visit Washington State I have to make a tough decision. Do I put the lives I love around me at risk by choosing to obey the law and be unarmed? Or do I risk becoming a felon? By carrying in the state of Washington if a law enforcement officer arrests me upon suspecting me of carrying a weapon, (that would otherwise be legal for me to carry in 30 other States), I have now committed all manner of crimes. This is foolish and unconstitutional. My drivers license is recognised in all 50 states and 7 territories, my right to travel freely is not called into question. Why then should my Colorado Concealed Handgun Permit be viewed any differently?

    I strongly urge you to support a stand alone H.R. 38, and vote no on any H.R. designed to "Fix NICS" the only fix that the NICS needs is to be abolished. You see, I have this strange belief that I, the father and husband of my small family should be responsible for the safety and security of my loved ones and anyone I may prudently choose to defend with any weapon at my disposal. I voluntarily gave the best 5 years of my life to defend this great nation in wartime, it was my honor and privilege to have served on active duty in the United States Marine Corps where I was called upon to protect America's largest stockpile of nuclear weapons. I fought in bloody Sangin Afghanistan, I protected the largest Marine Corps base, I have a Department of State Security Clearance, I'm a credentialed firearms instructor, I have a current, valid Concealed Handgun Permit for the State of Colorado, I'm a taxpaying, working, voting American citizen. Who else is better qualified to protect me and mine than me? Will you stand up for my rights, and the Millions like me?"


    Lets get National Reciprocity, and demolish the non functional NICS once and for all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    Wow. Pretty amazing that you jumped right to the 'butt hurt' level. Did you assume that i was concerned that legal CCW carriers were coming from out of state for a gunfight? That would be retarded.
    Call it what you will, but you asked for "my words", I'm actually not hurt at all. You are the one worried about being "outgunned", but why does it matter what capacity law abiding folks can carry, the folks looking (in your words) to "outgun" you, aren't going to be concerned with capacity restrictions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurley842002 View Post
    Call it what you will, but you asked for "my words", I'm actually not hurt at all. You are the one worried about being "outgunned", but why does it matter what capacity law abiding folks can carry, the folks looking (in your words) to "outgun" you, aren't going to be concerned with capacity restrictions.
    I believe you are referring to criminal carry. Any law, including reciprocity, does not apply to them, so I'm not sure why they're in this discussion. You seem to be projecting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    I believe you are referring to criminal carry. Any law, including reciprocity, does not apply to them, so I'm not sure why they're in this discussion. You seem to be projecting.
    So why are you concerned with law abiding "non criminal" carrier's outgunning you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    I'm not worried about me.
    Yet you were concerned enough to post about resident's being outgunned...
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    I don't like that at all. If you live in a state with firearm and mag limits, people from out of state could outgun the residents.

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