When I say no margin for error, I'm not talking about zero tolerance. I'm just saying that no margin for error is the mindset we all should have when handling firearms.

I'm not perfect, once left my carry gun in my car overnight. The car was locked, but I had been out running errands, grocery shopping and it was about 7:00 pm when I got home. Took the stuff and groceries in, locked the car and was putting groceries away. My puppy wanted to be fed and so I fed her, sat down on the couch to rest a few minutes but I was so tired I passed out and didnt wake up until 3 am. At 5 am I went to take my camera bag out to the car to go meet with a guy for a photoshoot of his car and my gun was gone, along with my dvd nav unit and some other stuff.

Should I have lost my rights permanently? no I don't believe so (nor do I believe anyone else who has had that happen should lose theirs) because I locked my car, but had the law allowed for such, I would have deserved a year or two revocation of my concealed carry license to learn from that.

Thankfully, they caught the scumbag a few days later at a hotel. He had stolen someone's ipad and the idiot was using the internet and they tracked him through the findmyipad app. He also had one of those electronic devices that scans key fob frequencies which was how he was getting in to people's cars.

Anyhow, I no longer leave my carry weapon in the car unless it's in a lock box or safe. It's either on my person or in my purse.


Grey, I never once said "everyone" doesn't take it as seriously as I do. Do NOT put words into my mouth. I said "some" people's laissez faire attitudes in regards to gun safety are disappointing.

I will remain by my stance whether you or anyone else likes it or not. We'll just agree to disagree.

a 53 year old should reasonably KNOW better.





Quote Originally Posted by GilpinGuy View Post
I've avoided this thread for the most part. And I don't mean to bash anyone here. Just maybe encourage some thought.

I have carried into a Post Office a few times. Shit, the Post Office here is about 300 square feet and there's never anyone in there. I walk in the guy says "Hi John, here's your stuff!" But I've committed a mortal sin according to the law. My former propane guy (not BG, BTW) used to open carry his .44 Roscoe in there. Who cares? Oh, the law does. But nobody else. At least not here. Should we both be banned from owning firearms?

I have also carried into my baby girls preschool many times, thinking it was OK because it was a private school and not a government indoctrination center. I have since learned that I may have committed a mortal sin there too - perhaps hundreds of times. Should I have my rights stripped away?

Laws and rules should be enforced but the punishment should be administered on a case by case basis, based on the circumstances. "No Tolerance" means no judgement based on the facts.
I wouldn't think your rights should be taken away in such an instance.


What I'm referring to (and my comments are being completely taken out of context to 9th degree) is instances like the Dad leaving the gun in the backpack, a kid gets moms gun and shoots his baby brother by accident, a kid takes his dad's gun to school and shoots 8 students. Guy horsing around at the range with a loaded rifle, aiming it carelessly or swinging it around on his shoulders back and forth with no regard for the safety of others around him/her.

It might have been reasonable to take your rifle to school in 1971 and have it in the gun rack above the window of your truck, but its not 1971 any more. Today is a drastically different culture and mindset of people.




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